Wanting some feedback from the atheists

[SteelCurtain]

Do yall think an atheist trying to convince someone out of their faith is equal to a theist trying to convert?

Religious people are far worse and should stfu

Excellent feedback and many great points. I especially liked the 'stfu' part. Such great insight. It's just so helpful when people generalize entire groups of people, right?

[LadyForCamus]

What are your opinions about us theists in this forum?

I dislike you

Do you generally like having us here? Why or why not?


No. There’s religious people EVERYWHERE I go already.


What can we do to improve and to make it easier/more enjoyable for you to have discussions with us?

Don’t post.

Are you in favor of this civility section to have more productive discussions with theists and other people of differing views?

Nope. I get 100% differing views 100% of the time every second of the day as soon as I step outside.  

What do you hope to gain from productive discussions with theists?

Nothing.

Well, aren’t you a peach. 🤔

[SteelCurtain]

It's the false dichotomy I always love to foist:

Either he/she is 13 and thinks they're edgy, or a hims a new afiest and hims mayd.

[Fireball]

Do yall think an atheist trying to convince someone out of their faith is equal to a theist trying to convert?

Religious people are far worse and should stfu

The only time I've ever seen an atheist try to convince a religious person to "convert" is on the internet, when they argued against the ardent preaching and threats of the non-existent "hell". I'll further comment that I consider Dante's "Inferno" to be an early example of fiction that was taken up and run with by the "Catholic Football League".  The amount of shame that should be heaped upon the behavior of the RCC since its inception can't possibly exceed the amount of grief that said institution has caused. Talk about high crimes against humanity.

[LadyForCamus]

Do yall think an atheist trying to convince someone out of their faith is equal to a theist trying to convert?

Religious people are far worse and should stfu

Someone needs a diaper change.

[Whateverist]

Thanks for the answers, guys.

Do yall think an atheist trying to convince someone out of their faith is equal to a theist trying to convert?

Equal as in, both are equally out of line and should avoid doing that?

I think misrepresenting your case and deliberately tailoring it to persuade the individual is just plain disrespectful, whoever does it.

Should they avoid doing that?  I can't necessarily give them an adequate reason, no.  They need to get smarter and care more.  So I guess the lesson is, if you can't persuade an asshole to give up their assholery, avoid them.

[Angrboda]

Do yall think an atheist trying to convince someone out of their faith is equal to a theist trying to convert?

Religious people are far worse and should stfu

The only time I've ever seen an atheist try to convince a religious person to "convert" is on the internet, when they argued against the ardent preaching and threats of the non-existent "hell". I'll further comment that I consider Dante's "Inferno" to be an early example of fiction that was taken up and run with by the "Catholic Football League".  The amount of shame that should be heaped upon the behavior of the RCC since its inception can't possibly exceed the amount of grief that said institution has caused. Talk about high crimes against humanity.

There is the well known example of street epistemology.

[Fireball]

The only time I've ever seen an atheist try to convince a religious person to "convert" is on the internet, when they argued against the ardent preaching and threats of the non-existent "hell". I'll further comment that I consider Dante's "Inferno" to be an early example of fiction that was taken up and run with by the "Catholic Football League".  The amount of shame that should be heaped upon the behavior of the RCC since its inception can't possibly exceed the amount of grief that said institution has caused. Talk about high crimes against humanity.

There is the well known example of street epistemology.

Fair enough. I DO need to get out more.

[SteelCurtain]

The only time I've ever seen an atheist try to convince a religious person to "convert" is on the internet, when they argued against the ardent preaching and threats of the non-existent "hell". I'll further comment that I consider Dante's "Inferno" to be an early example of fiction that was taken up and run with by the "Catholic Football League".  The amount of shame that should be heaped upon the behavior of the RCC since its inception can't possibly exceed the amount of grief that said institution has caused. Talk about high crimes against humanity.

There is the well known example of street epistemology.

One of the prime tenets of street epistemology is that you don't go into with the intent to convert someone. It is, rather, an exercise in making people confront and define the source of their knowledge. I'm not sure this is the same

[pocaracas]

Thanks for the answers, guys.

Happy to oblige.

Do yall think an atheist trying to convince someone out of their faith is equal to a theist trying to convert?

If the purpose of the interaction is to change the other's beliefs, then yes it is equivalent.

Equal as in, both are equally out of line and should avoid doing that?

"Should"... There's an interesting word...

I think it's impossible (or near enough) for someone to convince me to become a believer... as such, I think it's also nearly impossible for me to convince anyone to believe differently from what they believe.
I will happily share my point of view, how I came to be the way I am and what sort of events or facts have helped me consolidate my lack of belief in deities. I will try to understand the other person's point of view, how s/he came to be that way and what sort of events have helped her/him consolidate the belief in deity/ies. And I can offer my point of view on what aspects of that belief are not based on reality as I perceive it.
But I know very well that anything I say is very very very unlikely to alter the other's beliefs.