ahmedinajad

[josef rosenkranz]

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You could have done better even not mentionning this a-bomb solution which is utterly stupid and even criminal in a way of thinking.Think of your own family as being a-bombed and covered with cement .

First of all it wasn't something I said seriously and something I didn't mean. Second of all was it something I pretty much quoted from someone I've heared said that. That person didn't either mean it serious.

It was just somehitng I said to show that the war has been tiresome and people also have stopped caring about it. Even thought the a-bombing and cement wasn't something meant serious, does it still show that people just want it to end since it never seem to be any peace there.

As an sidenote do I not like a-bombs and think its an unethical weapon. I would never want it to happen to anyone. Also I would never want civillians to die.

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Thanks for the apology.We are afterall best friends even if we some times throw arrows which may be misinterpreted.
I'm wondering though that nobody has stated a clear position to Ahmenidajad's threat
to whipe Israel off the map,meanning to kill all the Israelis.Not that Israel is afraid of Iran but an irresponsible leader as Ahmedinajad ,being in posession of the a-bomb is capable to slip it to the hands of the terrorist Hamas group or Hizbullah, which are in fact his ideological subsidiairies, with most tragic consequences for the whole of the Middle-East and may be even of the whole world.
The western world seems not to understand that the Israeli-Palestinan conflict is used by the Islamic fascism to undermine all the democracies with the purpose to install an Islamic hegemony all over the world.
That's the reason why the Islamic extremists are putting USA and Israel under the same umbrella and regretably left wing parties ,organisations or even individual persons prefer to criticize Israel turning a blind eye to what's really going on under the surface.
The history knows such cycles.When Hitler came to power the western democracies hoped that he will fight communism and if the Jews will suffer (nobody really thought of the Hollocaust ),that's too bad ,but not to shred tears.
Neville Chamberlain hoped to apease Hitler ,may be in the same way as Obama tries to do now with Ahmedinajad,but the rest is history.

[LEDO]

Like it or not, the Jews are Arabs.

[Giff]

Like it or not, the Jews are Arabs.

No Jews are hebrews and not arabs.

It's like saying Mongolians are Japanese.

[Kyuuketsuki]

Like it or not, the Jews are Arabs.

Some are but the Jews are so disparate, have been so split up throughout history that they are hardly a true race at all and, Giff, I very much doubt that they are Hebrew in the sense of being a race (unless that was your point).

Kyu

[LEDO]

Like it or not, the Jews are Arabs.

No Jews are hebrews and not arabs.

It's like saying Mongolians are Japanese.

No it is not. Hebrews are Arabs. There is no genetic difference.

[Kyuuketsuki]

No it is not. Hebrews are Arabs. There is no genetic difference.

Well that's a different claim isn't it? Jews are not necessarily Hebrews.

Kyu

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

No it is not. Hebrews are Arabs. There is no genetic difference.

Well that's a different claim isn't it? Jews are not necessarily Hebrews.

Kyu

Quite right. TODAY Jews are neither a race or a ethnicity overall,although many are both.

The original 12 tribes are Israel were Semites,a term use to describe a race and an an ethnicity. The Arabs belong to the same group.

Arabs and Jews recognise a common ancestor, Abraham. The fratricidal nature of the war between the Jews and Arabs makes an even greater tragedy.

From WIKI:

n linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Akkadian, Amharic, Arabic, Aramaic, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Phoenician, Tigre and Tigrinya among others.

As language studies are interwoven with cultural studies, the term also came to describe the extended cultures and ethnicities, as well as the history of these varied peoples as associated by close geographic and linguistic distribution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite

[northumbrian66]

I agree ahmedinajad is nothing more than a islamic fascist tyrant. However, he is in reality just the front man for the more extreme islamic religious ghouls. It is ironic that the Iranian people got rid of the corrupt Shah (and rightly so) but what they got in exchange is much, much worse. Yet there is hope. The recent riots over the rigged elections promises a light at the end of the tunnel -no matter how dim at the moment. The old men that run the dictatorship at present will eventually die and the young, who are fed up with being told what they can and cant do, will take power. Hopefully it wont be with violence but as we know islam thrives on violence.

[northumbrian66]

You hear sometimes people saying that the world is no more than a circus.
It's of course exagerated but when you see that an international conference convened in order to discuss racism invites Ahmedinajad as one of it'a major speakers ,than you cannot but laugh at it as a circus joke.
Ahmedinajad is ,as president of Iran, a senior representative of the darkest theocracy of our time,driven by Homeinism ideology.
Remember ayatollah Homeini? This is the man who toppled the Shah 30 years ago and installed instead an oppressive regime against elementary freedom of conscience and right of justice for his own people,all that in the name of a fundamentalistic Islam.
In the first years of the Homeinistic regime hundreds and may be thousands of people were beaten up or flogged in public or even killed for such abominable crimes as men showing themselves in public with shaven faces or women going unveiled or boys holding hands with girls.
This dark middle-age oppression seem to have been loosened a bit nowadays but "Revolutionary guards"or 'Morality guards"are still roamig the streets in search of such "unspeakable crimes" to be severely reprimanded.
Dealers who are caught selling narcotics are still condemned to death and hanged in public places.

May be that it was right for the Iranians to remove the Shah, it's for history to judge, but from the point of view of justice and freedom for all people as we understand it in our times ,the Homeinistic regime remains a condemnable oppressive regime .

Now, one can say that racism and internal oppression has nothing to do one whith the other,does it really?
The issue of racism has to do with justice and equality of rights for all citizens of a country ,all right,
but who is the man to fight against racism ?

Could it be a man who leads this dark theocratic oppressive regime in his own country?
The motives of this man are more than obvious -to deflect external criticism against Homeinism by pointing his finger in the direction of others and presenting himself as a fierce fighter for justice.

Racism is obviously a crime which should be eradicated all over the world,but putting this man Ahmedinajad as a major personality of the fight against racism is a joke of a kind fitted for no more than a circus .

I agree with what you say. Doesnt Ahmadenijad remind you of Dr Goebbels? Another twisted little shit.

[leo-rcc]

I agree with what you say. Doesnt Ahmadenijad remind you of Dr Goebbels? Another twisted little shit.

Remind me of Dr. Goebbels? How so?