The dawn of civilization

[The Grand Nudger]

Auntie Oggle harvested shellfish. We know from middens in Neanderthal caves.

Yeah, there was definitely some of that going on, and by the late neo weirs, loop traps, and baskets for fish, most likely.  What's really strange are the sites that we don't find those remains where they would have been convenient.  There's a theory, though..that the remains probably were there once... but got processed into lime mortar later.

[Agnostico]

Gae Bolga.
I'm ridiculous. Then what shall we call all the others that haven't even given this a thought yet hold such firm beliefs. Dilusional. Retarded maybe

What's Chad? My theory mustn't be that bad if it's already been named.
So u know the theory yet u claim to have missed the explination... hmm ok

I basically said religion was created to form law which led to civilization.
wayzas says
"At first comfort, then group/tribe identity, control and manipulation."
It's basically what I said. Are u still riding it off as ridiculous...

I didn't know we had actual knowledge on this.
So fill me in on early humans 200,000ya to 10,000ya.
And tell me again why religions were invented.
Keeping in mind many people in eastern cultures dot pray to a God.
Buddha, Confucious to name a couple

Remember I'm not claiming facts. I'm just thinking out possible theories of human life b4 written history

[Amarok]

I'm ridiculous. Then what shall we call all the others that haven't even given this a thought yet hold such firm beliefs. Dilusional. Retarded maybe

Your still ridiculous. as for your harping of others and their supposed faults for not indulging your ridicules well that all it is    

What's Chad? My theory mustn't be that bad if it's already been named.

Nope being named does not make it good 

So u know the theory yet u claim to have missed the explination... hmm ok

There is no issue with that 

I basically said religion was created to form law which led to civilization.

Nope laws existed before religion 

I didn't know we had actual knowledge on this.

We do laws predate religion

So fill me in on early humans 200,000ya to 10,000ya.

And what will do with it ?

And tell me again why religions were invented.

Does it really matter ?

Keeping in mind the lack of Gods in eastern religions.

Eastern Religions have gods and deities from the beginning

[brewer]

Gae Bolga.
I'm ridiculous. Then what shall we call all the others that haven't even given this a thought yet hold such firm beliefs. Dilusional. Retarded maybe

What's Chad? My theory mustn't be that bad if it's already been named.
So u know the theory yet u claim to have missed the explination... hmm ok

I basically said religion was created to form law which led to civilization.

I didn't know we had actual knowledge on this.
So fill me in on early humans 200,000ya to 10,000ya.
And tell me again why religions were invented.
Keeping in mind the lack of Gods in eastern religions.

Law = control, and I basically said that in post #8. The thing is, once you make laws religious, you can make the law be any old thing the person(s) in control want it to be, because it supposedly came from a god(s). Once that happens, manipulation has been added.

[Agnostico]

Gae Bolga.
I'm ridiculous. Then what shall we call all the others that haven't even given this a thought yet hold such firm beliefs. Dilusional. Retarded maybe

What's Chad? My theory mustn't be that bad if it's already been named.
So u know the theory yet u claim to have missed the explination... hmm ok

I basically said religion was created to form law which led to civilization.

I didn't know we had actual knowledge on this.
So fill me in on early humans 200,000ya to 10,000ya.
And tell me again why religions were invented.
Keeping in mind the lack of Gods in eastern religions.

Law = control, and I basically said that in post #8. The thing is, once you make laws religious, you can make the law be any old thing the person(s) in control want it to be, because it supposedly came from a god(s). Once that happens, manipulation has been added.

See we agree GB. It's not a ridiculous thought GB

[brewer]

Law = control, and I basically said that in post #8. The thing is, once you make laws religious, you can make the law be any old thing the person(s) in control want it to be, because it supposedly came from a god(s). Once that happens, manipulation has been added.

See we agree GB. It's not a ridiculous thought GB

Problem with reading comprehension?

[Agnostico]

See we agree GB. It's not a ridiculous thought GB

Problem with reading comprehension?

We agree don't we?
Basically religion was introduced to control the masses. Do u think thats the most likely reason for religion? I do

Im not a troll dude work with me

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Problem with reading comprehension?

We agree don't we?
Basically religion was introduced to control the masses. Do u think thats the most likely reason for religion? I do

Im not a troll dude work with me

Ahhh, religion can control people, just like injecting atheism can.  We've seen the extremes of both.

[Agnostico]

Gae Bolga. These are just theories. And I tend to write too much, my bad.

I think I said something like "civilizations popping up". What I ment was they arose over thousands of years.

U are an expert on agriculture. But theres more to it don't u agree?
My theory is on pre agriculture as well and is based on observations in societies across the mammal world, human nature and war.
U didn’t touch on any of this.

Lets take it step by step. Its 7,500BC. End of the huge ice age. Life is scarce.
I speculate the Chad theory based on the fact it is the most seen mating strategy in mammals including primates.

The male is driven by survival first. Evolution has him hardwired to spread his seed far and wide especially in such a time where life is rare. There are no morals, just survive and procreate. His balls don’t stop. The testosterone drives his actions. He won’t “settle down” with one woman at this point in time. He will try impregnate as many women as possible.

The female on the other hand doesn’t have many seeds. She has to be choosy.
Her instincts are to find a fit man with good genes, a Chad. A provider and protector.

In modern days that’s a man with money. Hypergamy, it’s a fact.
9 out of 10 women marry a man who earns more than her.

So that’s what I think likely happened at this stage. Gae Bolga.
How do u think it might have happened?

Again for me there is no right or wrong answers here. None of us know.
There is no ridiculous. Its ridiculous to claim ridiculous. Hehehe. Seriously but...
You can posit aliens, sea monsters or even God at this point in time and I would accept it for what it is. Speculation.

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We agree don't we?
Basically religion was introduced to control the masses. Do u think thats the most likely reason for religion? I do

Im not a troll dude work with me

Ahhh, religion can control people, just like injecting atheism can.  We've seen the extremes of both.

Thats what Im speculating. All the details are just that. But ulimately I think religion was introduced to control the people.
Now the repercussions of this is that without religion civilization wouldn't of been possible.
I think its this thought that might make some people here uncomfortable.

I see "truth' on ur profile. I must pick and probe to find the truth.
Sometimes peoples feelings get in the way but facts don't care about feelings

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Who are u trolling? Oh to urself.
Here are a dose of facts...

The Code of Ur-Nammu is the oldest known law code surviving today.
It is from Mesopotamia and is written on tablets, in the Sumerian language c. 2100–2050 BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu

Mesapotanian religion had been around since 3,500BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Me...n_religion

I deal in facts not fiction. Sorry if ur feelings get in the way

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Gae Bolga. These are just theories. And I tend to write too much, my bad.

I think I said something like "civilizations popping up". What I ment was they arose over thousands of years.

U are an expert on agriculture. But theres more to it don't u agree?
My theory is on pre agriculture as well and is based on observations in societies across the mammal world, human nature and war.
U didn’t touch on any of this.

Lets take it step by step. Its 7,500BC. End of the huge ice age. Life is scarce.
I speculate the Chad theory based on the fact it is the most seen mating strategy in mammals including primates.

The male is driven by survival first. Evolution has him hardwired to spread his seed far and wide especially in such a time where life is rare. There are no morals, just survive and procreate. His balls don’t stop. The testosterone drives his actions. He won’t “settle down” with one woman at this point in time. He will try impregnate as many women as possible.

The female on the other hand doesn’t have many seeds. She has to be choosy.
Her instincts are to find a fit man with good genes, a Chad. A provider and protector.

In modern days that’s a man with money. Hypergamy, it’s a fact.
9 out of 10 women marry a man who earns more than her.

So that’s what I think likely happened at this stage. Gae Bolga.
How do u think it might have happened?

Again for me there is no right or wrong answers here. None of us know.
There is no ridiculous. Its ridiculous to claim ridiculous. Hehehe. Seriously but...
You can posit aliens, sea monsters or even God at this point in time and I would accept it for what it is. Speculation.

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Ahhh, religion can control people, just like injecting atheism can.  We've seen the extremes of both.

Thats what Im speculating. All the details are just that. But ulimately I think religion was introduced to control the people.
Now the repercussions of this is that without religion civilization wouldn't of been possible.
I think its this thought that might make some people here uncomfortable.

I see "truth' on ur profile. I must pick and probe to find the truth.
Sometimes peoples feelings get in the way but facts don't care about feelings

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Who are u trolling? Oh to urself.
Here are a dose of facts...

The Code of Ur-Nammu is the oldest known law code surviving today.
It is from Mesopotamia and is written on tablets, in the Sumerian language c. 2100–2050 BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu

Mesapotanian religion had been around since 3,500BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Me...n_religion

I deal in facts not fiction. Sorry if ur feelings get in the way

Yep, I agree.  Facts don't care and math certainly don't give a rat's behind.  Claim it when you think it and call a spade a spade.