Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Define big government ? 

Drug wars 
Border walls 
Space forces 

These are big government

I don't think we need a space force. I think the problem with the drug wars is that it extends beyond drugs.  There are a lot of not-so-nice people that run many of those rings.

Border wall, I guess we'll see.  Regardless of what happens there, I hope to see better regulation at the border.  I have no problem with legal immigration, but when people can slip through the borders, gain amnesty, and stay here indefinitely, it not only encourages more of it, but those who attempt to come here legally often get put on the back burner.  If I wanted to go somewhere else, and I knew I could either wait two years or try to make a break for it on the border and get amnesty, which do you think I'm going to pick?  Probably try my luck at making a run for the border.

[Amarok]

Define big government ? 

Drug wars 
Border walls 
Space forces 

These are big government

I don't think we need a space force. I think the problem with the drug wars is that it extends beyond drugs.  There are a lot of not-so-nice people that run many of those rings.

Border wall, I guess we'll see.  Regardless of what happens there, I hope to see better regulation at the border.  I have no problem with legal immigration, but when people can slip through the borders, gain amnesty, and stay here indefinitely, it not only encourages more of it, but those who attempt to come here legally often get put on the back burner.  If I wanted to go somewhere else, and I knew I could either wait two years or try to make a break for it on the border and get amnesty, which do you think I'm going to pick?  Probably try my luck at making a run for the border.

I'm not arguing their merit but the simple fact these are big government idea's generally preferred by the right .

[T0 Th3 M4X]

I don't think we need a space force. I think the problem with the drug wars is that it extends beyond drugs.  There are a lot of not-so-nice people that run many of those rings.

Border wall, I guess we'll see.  Regardless of what happens there, I hope to see better regulation at the border.  I have no problem with legal immigration, but when people can slip through the borders, gain amnesty, and stay here indefinitely, it not only encourages more of it, but those who attempt to come here legally often get put on the back burner.  If I wanted to go somewhere else, and I knew I could either wait two years or try to make a break for it on the border and get amnesty, which do you think I'm going to pick?  Probably try my luck at making a run for the border.

I'm not arguing their merit but the simple fact these are big government idea's generally preferred by the right .

It's a problem all across the board.  A politician from any party can come in and stay indefinitely.  Many of them are crooked.

The idea of a border wall was around before Trump.  He's just the one currently being tagged with it.  I imagine we'll see some kind of compromise before it's all over, but right now it's a bunch of idiotic games between both sides.  Just yesterday the house passed a spending bill that completely excludes funding.  Waste of time.  They're trying to make a statement with something they know will get shot down.  If the Senate doesn't do it, which I'm assuming they will, it's just going to get vetoed.  They can try to run in back through, but I can't imagine it's even worth the paper it's printed on.

[Amarok]

I'm not arguing their merit but the simple fact these are big government idea's generally preferred by the right .

It's a problem all across the board.  A politician from any party can come in and stay indefinitely.  Many of them are crooked.

The idea of a border wall was around before Trump.  He's just the one currently being tagged with it.  I imagine we'll see some kind of compromise before it's all over, but right now it's a bunch of idiotic games between both sides.  Just yesterday the house passed a spending bill that completely excludes funding.  Waste of time.  They're trying to make a statement with something they know will get shot down.  If the Senate doesn't do it, which I'm assuming they will, it's just going to get vetoed.  They can try to run in back through, but I can't imagine it's even worth the paper it's printed on.

I said nothing about Trump I said it was an idea more favored by the right

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Amarok

It's a problem all across the board.  A politician from any party can come in and stay indefinitely.  Many of them are crooked.

The idea of a border wall was around before Trump.  He's just the one currently being tagged with it.  I imagine we'll see some kind of compromise before it's all over, but right now it's a bunch of idiotic games between both sides.  Just yesterday the house passed a spending bill that completely excludes funding.  Waste of time.  They're trying to make a statement with something they know will get shot down.  If the Senate doesn't do it, which I'm assuming they will, it's just going to get vetoed.  They can try to run in back through, but I can't imagine it's even worth the paper it's printed on.

I said nothing about Trump I said it was an idea more favored by the right

Sure, it is.  Just like when Clinton proposed it, it was a left thing.  Obama even had very similar ideas about it and it was a left thing.  Now it's Trump, so now it's a right thing.   As I said, I believe all the squabbling over it to be idiotic.  This is why most people are annoyed by politics.  I probably land somewhere close to the middle, but maybe a hair to the right.  When I vote for a republican, I hear about how I'm a "mean ol' communist troll".  When I vote for a democrat, I hear about how I'm supporting all the bad things they're going to do.  Really, I could give a rat's behind about either party, but it's what we have to deal with right now, so I vote accordingly.

[Cod]

I would have more respect for 'believers' if they would just admit that they actually have no evidence for a Gods existence.
I'm convinced that their fear of death is all that keeps these silly God myths alive. People can't just accept that their existence is finite and invent all sorts of fantastical get outs.

Be honest 'believers' you're buying into the God concept for one reason and one reason only. And you are not making the world a better place in doing so.

[Gwaithmir]

I would have more respect for 'believers' if they would just admit that they actually have no evidence for a Gods existence.
I'm convinced that their fear of death is all that keeps these silly God myths alive. People can't just accept that their existence is finite and invent all sorts of fantastical get outs.

Be honest 'believers' you're buying into the God concept for one reason and one reason only. And you are not making the world a better place in doing so.

God is the perfect sop for those who can't or won't think for themselves.

[Dmitry1983]

Be honest 'believers' you're buying into the God concept for one reason and one reason only. 

That's true that fear of death forced me to become a theist. But there are other good reasons to believe in God. Science can't explian consciousness or existence of universe. This is evidence that God is real.

[GrandizerII]

Be honest 'believers' you're buying into the God concept for one reason and one reason only. 

That's true that fear of death forced me to become a theist. But there are other good reasons to believe in God. Science can't explian consciousness or existence of universe. This is evidence that God is real.

Even if the premise(s) is/are true, the conclusion "God is" does not logically follow.

[Angrboda]

Be honest 'believers' you're buying into the God concept for one reason and one reason only. 

That's true that fear of death forced me to become a theist. But there are other good reasons to believe in God. Science can't explian consciousness or existence of universe. This is evidence that God is real.

No, that's an argument from ignorance. An argument from ignorance isn't evidence of anything.