Active shooter in NZ

[EgoDeath]

Absolutely horrendous.

Does NZ have the death penalty? I hope so.

NO. 
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New Zealand abolished the death penalty for all crimes, including treason, in 1989.

That's a shame.

[fredd bear]

NO. 
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New Zealand abolished the death penalty for all crimes, including treason, in 1989.

That's a shame.

 I guess that depends on whether you are a victim or a perpetrator.

Certainly a lot cheaper to kill murderers and child rapers rather than  keep them locked  up for 50 years. Pretty sure  the purely pragmatic, economical argument cannot be refuted.

Fortunately,  I live in a society which does not always follow the purely pragmatic. If I wanted to liven a country more like that, I'd move to the US. 

[EgoDeath]

That's a shame.

 I guess that depends on whether you are a victim or a perpetrator.

Certainly a lot cheaper to kill murderers and child rapers rather than  keep them locked  up for 50 years. Pretty sure  the purely pragmatic, economical argument cannot be refuted.

Fortunately,  I live in a society which does not always follow the purely pragmatic. If I wanted to liven a country more like that, I'd move to the US. 

I'm not necessarily concerned with the economic pragmatism of the death penalty, I simply think some criminals deserve death.

[Amarok]

Certainly a lot cheaper to kill murderers and child rapers rather than  keep them locked  up for 50 years. Pretty sure  the purely pragmatic, economical argument cannot be refuted.

 Actually it isn't cheaper not just for 50 years but for the rest of their lives .

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 I guess that depends on whether you are a victim or a perpetrator.

Certainly a lot cheaper to kill murderers and child rapers rather than  keep them locked  up for 50 years. Pretty sure  the purely pragmatic, economical argument cannot be refuted.

Fortunately,  I live in a society which does not always follow the purely pragmatic. If I wanted to liven a country more like that, I'd move to the US. 

I'm not necessarily concerned with the economic pragmatism of the death penalty, I simply think some criminals deserve death.

And the reason is ?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

 I guess that depends on whether you are a victim or a perpetrator.

Certainly a lot cheaper to kill murderers and child rapers rather than  keep them locked  up for 50 years. Pretty sure  the purely pragmatic, economical argument cannot be refuted.

Fortunately,  I live in a society which does not always follow the purely pragmatic. If I wanted to liven a country more like that, I'd move to the US. 

I'm not necessarily concerned with the economic pragmatism of the death penalty, I simply think some criminals deserve death.

'Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.'  - J.R.R. Tolkien

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

This is beautiful.  Thank you, Sydney.



Boru

[Fake Messiah]

Can ya?

[Duty]

We all know what turned the one on the left into a homicidal maniac - Islam; we're in the dark about the one on the right so worth an article? What do I win?

[downbeatplumb]

We all know what turned the one on the left into a homicidal maniac - Islam; we're in the dark about the one on the right so worth an article? What do I win?

Are we in the dark though, there is a lunge to the right everywhere you look at the moment. How many times have I seen people "why I left the left" stories on in the internet, all of them full of right wing dog whistles. 

I suppose we are just going through one of those retrograde steps where society takes a backwards step. 
A shame.

[Duty]

I guess my answer would be that there's a big difference between being a fanatical tory/republican etc advocate, campaigner and financial supporter and gunning down 50 civilians.