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Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
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RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 11, 2011 at 11:08 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2011 at 11:18 am by Jaysyn.)
(October 11, 2011 at 11:00 am)sonofodin Wrote:(October 11, 2011 at 10:57 am)Jaysyn Wrote:(October 11, 2011 at 10:54 am)sonofodin Wrote: Anyway, if we were to assume that it's a "supernatural god". How would you define it? How can you conceptualize it if it is outside of reality? Yeah, well the Timecube fruitcake didn't change my worldview either & you are just a small step above him. Better luck next time.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
(October 11, 2011 at 9:32 am)sonofodin Wrote: Since the word "god" means so many things to so many people (some think "god" is the universe, some think "god" is an alien lifeform, some think "god" is supernatural) So, your argument is that if any word/concept/item/person has more than one meaning in a dictionary, then there is no way to disprove it exists or to prove it does exist? I just don't get this opinion. So, the "white house" has two definitions in the dictionary. Therefore, there is no way to prove the white house exists or does not exist, right? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/white%20house
Or what about the word 'trunk'? It can mean the body of a tree, the nose of an elephant, a male swimsuit, a large suitcase or the back of a car.
ME CONFUSED? IS THERE TRUNKS?
Therefore trunks do not exist so your belief in them is illogical.
RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 11, 2011 at 11:46 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2011 at 11:58 am by Captain Scarlet.)
The non cognitivism or meaninglessness of god talk is an argument FOR atheism, it doesn't demonstrate the irrationality of atheism. Atheism is a rejection of theism, not lack of belief in a god. Non cognitivist arguments proceed something like:
An existant has primary, secondary and relational attributes Secondary and relational attributes necessarily depend on primary ones The god concept has identified secondary attributes (eg omni qualities) The god concept has no positively identified primary attribute Talk of the god concepts secondary attributes is meaningless Theism is thus rejected as meaningless The theist will seek to defend that the concept of their god does have identified primary attributes. But how do they know? Why do they have the right to posit such features on an unknowable sovereign force/being? At what point do these said attributes just amount to bare assertions and/or stolen concepts from the natural world? Why do some people of the same faith hold different views?
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
The theist will defend the rationalism of their concept, as it is rationally realised. The atheist cannot defend any concept because his concept isn't rationalised: it's formed from a lack of understanding of something.
RE: Atheism is just as irrational as Theism.
October 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm by LastPoet.)
I read this threat twice in order to understand it and I failed, so here is:
Besides, in soviet russia god worships you!
bahahahahaha
FYI, people, lastpoet's been lying to us. He says he's from Portugal, but when you hear his accent on hang out you'd swear he was Russian. (October 11, 2011 at 12:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The theist will defend the rationalism of their concept, as it is rationally realised. The atheist cannot defend any concept because his concept isn't rationalised: it's formed from a lack of understanding of something. Now prove that assertion.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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