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Isnt Atheism just Marxism
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Isnt Atheism just Marxism
Because once you have made up your mind that there is no god, or there is no need for capitalism. Then its really useless to debate it any further when one isnt open to other ideas.
People who are deists, theists or pantheists or even agnostics to some degree tend to be more open minded. So it just doesnt seem like there is any point to debate atheists about religion in same way there is no point debating a marxist of the benefits of capitalism
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
No, atheism is a comment on a persons state of belief with regards to gods. It's not a political position. There's no particular need to debate atheists about religion (and most of the worlds atheists are religious)....but if you were going to do so, the fact that they don't believe in gods is irrelevant. Religions are not gods. We routinely debate the merit of this or that religion or this or that religious concept because, regardless of whether or not gods exist and have an effect on this world, those religions and those concepts do.

I've been on a kick lately to help theists understand that proving their religion™ and proving their god are not the same thing...and that, ultimately, it's their failure to provide a compelling argument for their religion, not their god, that causes them the most trouble. Consider the problem that conversion evangelists in other communities of faith have. Everyone there believes in god - they just don't agree on religion.

I'll demonstrate - let's assume that whatever god you believe in exists. Isn't that nice! Saved you all that time and worry. Now, assuming that whatever god you believe in exists...I have no interest in joining your club. How would you convince me otherwise, what debate about your religion would you like to have?
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
A ridiculous conclusion.

Not believing obviously fabricated fairy tales does not require a particular political affiliation.
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
Marxist and capitalists alike believe in ghosts, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
(December 3, 2020 at 8:02 am)Sweden83 Wrote: Because once you have made up your mind that there is no god, or there is no need for capitalism. Then its really useless to debate it any further when one isnt open to other ideas.
People who are deists, theists or pantheists or even agnostics to some degree tend to be more open minded. So it just doesnt seem like there is any point to debate atheists about religion in the same way there is no point debating a marxist of the benefits of capitalism.

(bold mine)

Then why are you here?

Boru
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
(December 3, 2020 at 8:14 am)onlinebiker Wrote: A ridiculous conclusion.

Not believing obviously fabricated fairy tales does not require a particular political affiliation.

Unless you happen to be a member of the No Fabricated Fairy Tales Party.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
Atheism allows me to smoke meth until my heart is content. Also, it allows me to fuck dead babies, then eat them without an ounce of regret. On the weekends, I get to brutalize little old blue haired ladies. I am the regional champion in this regard. I should clinch the title this upcoming weekend. To celebrate, I'll most likely kill my neighbors.
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
At work.
(December 3, 2020 at 8:02 am)Sweden83 Wrote: Because once you have made up your mind that there is no god, or there is no need for capitalism. Then its really useless to debate it any further when one isnt open to other ideas.
People who are deists, theists or pantheists or even agnostics to some degree tend to be more open minded. So it just doesnt seem like there is any point to debate atheists about religion in same way there is no point debating a marxist of the benefits of capitalism

Hello! Big Grin

*Reads opening post*

*Chortles a little*

Uhm... no.

There is also the position of "I don't see anything to indicate the supernatural. Hence no dietys." point of veiw as well.

Cheers.
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
Oh goodie, another sophomore pol sci student.
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RE: Isnt Atheism just Marxism
(December 3, 2020 at 8:02 am)Sweden83 Wrote: Because once you have made up your mind that there is no god, or there is no need for capitalism. Then its really useless to debate it any further when one isnt open to other ideas.
People who are deists, theists or pantheists or even agnostics to some degree tend to be more open minded. So it just doesnt seem like there is any point to debate atheists about religion in same way there is no point debating a marxist of the benefits of capitalism

Godless heathens love capitalism.

And twisted freaky sex.
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