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Poll: Do you believe vaping tobacco is safer than smoking tobacco?
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Yes, it's far safer
33.33%
8 33.33%
Yes, it's marginally safer
20.83%
5 20.83%
No, it's far more dangerous
4.17%
1 4.17%
No, it's marginally more dangerous
4.17%
1 4.17%
They're equally unhealthy.
25.00%
6 25.00%
Not sure/don't care
12.50%
3 12.50%
Total 24 vote(s) 100%
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Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
#21
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
There is not enough information to say if vaping is safer. Valkyrie can verify that MDs use "Pack Years" to assess possible damage from cigarette smoke. If you smoke a pack of cigs a day for ten years you have a 10 year pack history. 2 packs daily for 10 years you have a 20 year pack history. There is not a way to measure vaping risks in the same way. So, one day we may see an "E-Cig Year" standard but we don't now. It may be decades before we see the damage. I would answer the poll questions if there was an option for "I don't know." separate from the "I don't care."
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#22
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
Is nicotine itself that big of a deal? Is it not a mild stimulant same as caffeine?
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#23
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
(June 29, 2019 at 8:27 pm)Aegon Wrote: Is nicotine itself that big of a deal? Is it not a mild stimulant same as caffeine?

As a vasoconstrictor it certainly can be if you have underlying blood pressure, cardiac, circulatory issues. Coupled with underlying issues, nicotine can be a key component in a perfect storm that causes a heart attack, aneurysm, stroke, etc. Excessive caffeine consumption poses potential cardiovascular risks as well. 

I smoke and drink Red Bull, incidentally. I blame it my INTP personality type...Lol 
I read somewhere that INTP's are most likely to smoke knowing goddamned well that it will kill them.

Luckily, my BP is well-controlled with medication and has been for years. 
That still leaves the potential problem of the Big C to contend with though. And emphysema/COPD.

I've been meaning to get around to finding a vape product that suits me. I have one that is pretty satisfying, but it's heavy, clunky and awkward to hold. The ones that I've purchased that DO have the look and feel of a cigarette weren't satisfying at all, and I still found myself smoking afterward. I'm gonna have to do some serious research and drop some serious coinage to get an optimal replacement I guess.
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#24
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
(June 29, 2019 at 8:27 pm)Aegon Wrote: Is nicotine itself that big of a deal? Is it not a mild stimulant same as caffeine?

Nicotine is a vasoconstricor. It can impede the healing of wounds, especially in the extremities. It can lead to Reynaud's Syndrome and if severe enough, tissue damage.
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#25
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
Could I get a helping of popcorn lung please?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318260.php
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#26
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
I thought most stimulants including caffeine were vasoconstrictors? Is nicotine an even bigger one?

I guess my point is: is it really much worse than coffee?
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#27
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
(June 29, 2019 at 9:27 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(June 29, 2019 at 8:27 pm)Aegon Wrote: Is nicotine itself that big of a deal? Is it not a mild stimulant same as caffeine?

Nicotine is a vasoconstricor. It can impede the healing of wounds, especially in the extremities. It can lead to Reynaud's Syndrome and if severe enough, tissue damage.

It also inhibits bone formation/healing: https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/treatment/...d-smoking/
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#28
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
(June 29, 2019 at 10:37 pm)wyzas Wrote: Could I get a helping of popcorn lung please?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318260.php

I knew not to trust those those goddamned flavored vapes! 
With any luck cigarette tar has provided my lungs with with a nice protective coating against diacetyl. Tongue

Seriously, someone gifted me with a vape that came with a nasty grape-flavored cartridge. It seemed as though I tasted/felt some sort of slick residue as I used it, so I tossed it.

Those flavored products are exactly what the teens vapers are drawn to, I'd bet. They definitely need make the risks of diacetyl clear to consumers who think that what they're inhaling is essentially as safe as water.

(June 29, 2019 at 10:45 pm)Aegon Wrote: I thought most stimulants including caffeine were vasoconstrictors? Is nicotine an even bigger one?

I guess my point is: is it really much worse than coffee?

Word on the street is that nicotine can have an adverse effect on blood sugar levels.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/nicotine-blood-sugar#1

In folks who actually have diabetes I imagine nicotine is even more problematic as diabetes presents with circulatory problems that vasoconstriction would only stand to exacerbate.
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#29
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
(June 29, 2019 at 10:37 pm)wyzas Wrote: Could I get a helping of popcorn lung please?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318260.php

If exposure to diacetyl is your concern, it seems you should be more concerned about smoking.

https://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/201...cetyl.html
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#30
RE: Do you believe vaping is healthier than smoking? (Tobacco)
Like using a clean needle is the healthier way to shoot up heroin.......
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