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No internal monologue
#11
RE: No internal monologue
I always keep my monologue internal.

Last time I trieds to monologue out loud the "hero" shot me and blew up my secret base.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#12
RE: No internal monologue
Can all of you guys let an orchestra or band or fantasy instrument play random stuff in your head at will?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#13
RE: No internal monologue
(February 17, 2020 at 1:31 am)Alex K Wrote: Can all of you guys let an orchestra or band or fantasy instrument play random stuff in your head at will?

No.

When I try it's usually the Imperial March and it sounds like it's played on a xylophone by a one armed phychopath with Parkinsons...

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#14
RE: No internal monologue
(February 17, 2020 at 1:52 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 17, 2020 at 1:31 am)Alex K Wrote: Can all of you guys let an orchestra or band or fantasy instrument play random stuff in your head at will?

No.

When I try it's usually the Imperial March and it sounds like it's played on a xylophone by a one armed phychopath with Parkinsons...

That... umm, counts
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#15
RE: No internal monologue
"I hear voices in my head. I would try to block them out but they always have such great ideas."
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#16
RE: No internal monologue
(February 17, 2020 at 1:52 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 17, 2020 at 1:31 am)Alex K Wrote: Can all of you guys let an orchestra or band or fantasy instrument play random stuff in your head at will?

No.

When I try it's usually the Imperial March and it sounds like it's played on a xylophone by a one armed phychopath with Parkinsons...



Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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#17
RE: No internal monologue
I haven't had time to read the paper yet. And given it's all over the internet there's bound to be exaggerations and misapplications.

On the surface I think most psychologists know people can have thoughts without them being verbal. Children obviously think before they learn to speak, and people who were born deaf never hear an audible language to think with. I think Helen Keller wrote something about what it was like to think for her.

The surprise for me would be if people who already know and use language, aren't incorporating it into their thoughts. I don't believe it, but I look forward to reading the paper and seeing if I'm wrong. I think this is the study:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1917302379
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#18
RE: No internal monologue
(February 17, 2020 at 1:31 am)Alex K Wrote: Can all of you guys let an orchestra or band or fantasy instrument play random stuff in your head at will?

I'm sure that I don't represent all but yes I often have music in my head. It's rarely original and usually begins with hearing something tangential.

What is a fantasy instrument?

[Image: spock-music.jpg]
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#19
RE: No internal monologue
Follow up, for those that can hear music in their heads...does it take more directed attention to accomplish it?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#20
RE: No internal monologue
(February 16, 2020 at 9:31 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: "This is done subconsciously.."

Unless you're into Freudian ideas, we speak of things being processed unconsciously not subconsciously in modern-day psychology and neuroscience. Aren't you a fan of AST? Read any of Grazaino's papers, he makes constant mention of unconscious stimuli, etc., never to the subconscious lol.

Reference: Webb TW and Graziano MSA (2015) The attention schema theory: a mechanistic account of subjective awareness. Frontiers in Psychology, p 1-11.
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