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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 6:34 am
Personally, I really like EvF, although we've had the odd spat.
While I agree with Bef that he does tend to rattle on and his writing style can be a bit difficult to read sometimes, this is because he's young and a bit over enthusiastic.
He's certainly not stupid though.
The only advice I would give him is to calm his writing style down a bit so it's more easily read and make some of his posts a bit more considered.
But look who's talking. I can talk as much crap as the next idiot
I also question the wisdom of these 'thoughts' being placed in the public domain.
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 7:42 am
lol, lmao and (insert random unneccesary comment here).
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 8:33 am
Well, I'll just say that I think if I was 'an indisputable moron' - I doubt people would be disputing it here.
And If I am 'an indisputable moron' - it's not like I am on purpose! lol. If I am, is 'being an indisputable moron' regardless of it deliberate or not, breaking the rules?
I've been here since September, around 9 months now. And done more posts here than anyone, (over 15 percent of the posts) so If I am 'an indisputable moron' (despite the fact people are disputing it here?) then I just wonder why it took 9 months to be told? If it really is so 'indisputable'? ' '
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 9:23 am
(June 9, 2009 at 8:33 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Well, I'll just say that I think if I was 'an indisputable moron' - I doubt people would be disputing it here.
And If I am 'an indisputable moron' - it's not like I am on purpose! lol. If I am, is 'being an indisputable moron' regardless of it deliberate or not, breaking the rules?
I've been here since September, around 9 months now. And done more posts here than anyone, (over 15 percent of the posts) so If I am 'an indisputable moron' (despite the fact people are disputing it here?) then I just wonder why it took 9 months to be told? If it really is so 'indisputable'? ''
EvF
*sigh*
shut up you moron.
Just kidding
I've teamed up with EvF on numerous occasions to do battle against fundamentalist arguments and he sure doesn't allow any point to slide. One of the things I've always loved in his arguments is that he well and truly thorough. I'll admit, sometimes I've just not had the energy to read through some of his larger stanzas, but that's my problem. He contributes (Y)
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 9:30 am
Thanks for your support LukeMC (and others who have 'disputed the indisputable' lol) - seems to me like Bef's opinion of me being an indisputable moron is being disputed lol (says the indisputable moron).
Interesting nickname for me there IM: Stands for Instant Message, Instant Messenger and also now it can stand for: Indisputable Moron.
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 9:44 am
(June 9, 2009 at 9:30 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Thanks for your support LukeMC (and others who have 'disputed the indisputable' lol) - seems to me like Bef's opinion of me being an indisputable moron is being disputed lol (says the indisputable moron).
Interesting nickname for me there IM: Stands for Instant Message, Instant Messenger and also now it can stand for: Indisputable Moron.
EvF
Now EvF, there is no need to prove his point though.
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 10:00 am
Lol ok (I didn't realize that was doing so?? )
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm
(June 9, 2009 at 5:01 am)Bef Wrote: I should make the point that the owner of this forum asked me on several occasions to join, so I spent a considerable amount of time reading through posts to see if I would be interested in contributing to this community. When I told him I was not interested and gave my reasons, he asked me to share those thoughts here so that others could consider them.
I suppose we will have to take it on faith that you are telling the truth. Why one person's posts would convice you not to join the forum is beyond me. It seems simple enough to scroll past their posts if they annoy you.
Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men. - Francis Bacon
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Or even put me on the 'ignore list' if they're so inclined?
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RE: Remove EvidenceVsFaith
June 9, 2009 at 2:17 pm
(June 9, 2009 at 8:33 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I've been here since September, around 9 months now. And done more posts here than anyone, (over 15 percent of the posts) so If I am 'an indisputable moron' (despite the fact people are disputing it here?) then I just wonder why it took 9 months to be told? If it really is so 'indisputable'? ''
You know, I think that if Bef's story is true and that Adrian told him to voice his opinion like this then they both should have shown more tact. This is not the way to go about voicing complaints and it does reflect negatively back on Bef. But it's out the open and I feel like Bef has just been ridiculed instead of addressed, so here I go.
I disagree with Bef, EvF is not a moron and like all of us does have his opinion to share and things to learn. However, while I don't think EvF is a moron I will agree with Bef on one point. I absolutely hate fluff posting, and the fact that you have high post counts doesn't reflect highly on your quality of posts. I only try to post something when I actually have something to say and very very rarely might I post a fluff. I'm an exec for AB and an admin on the forums. I am constantly answering registration questions and having in depth conversations with staffers and yet my post count is nowhere near the post counts of those who fluff post, and I've been there since the forum was created. In fact if you get your post count to a certain level your status changes for one post count to "Likes to post randomly to raise post count" or something like that as a joke.
In my opinion, EvF, you do have a lot of "Lol" posts and to me that doesn't contribute positively in the forums and can detract from the conversation.
I've dealt with fluff posting every time I get involved on a forum. It always annoys me when people reply with nothing that contributes to a conversation. Especially if two people derail a thread topic with a personal conversation. Usually I can tell who the fluff posters are, their high post count is usually a strong indicator and they usually wear it like a badge as if it means something. I don't care how many posts people have as long as they are quality posts, and in my experience on many different forums the people with the most thoughtful posts tend to have lower post counts. I tend to ignore the people who fluff. I'll be honest, EvF, I have you pegged as a fluff poster and I don't often read your posts when I find the time to read and respond to these forums. That's not to say that none of your posts are thought out and that you don't contribute to conversations at all, but it's diminished by your fluffing.
Whether you deserve to be a moderator or not is the decision of the Admin's, so I would be very interested to hear what Adrian thinks of this. But if it was my decision, I wouldn't give someone I considered a fluff poster moderator status.
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