WW2 facts.

[Brian37]

Yeah, but where were you when the orcs were raiding the West Fold.

Fighting Germans in Greece.

Boru

Wait? If one is going to barbecue kittens, or fry babies, why  Greece? Why not olive oil or canola oil or soy bean oil?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Fighting Germans in Greece.

Boru

Wait? If one is going to barbecue kittens, or fry babies, why  Greece? Why not olive oil or canola oil or soy bean oil?

Funny stuff.

Boru

[Brian37]

Other facts that may be of interest:

Even though NZ was never directly attacked, they contributed more combat troops (as a percentage of population) that the US and Britain proper combined.

NZ had a higher combat death rate per million population than the US, Britain or Australia.

NZ was in a formal, declared state of war against the Axis than any Commonwealth nation except for Britain and Australia, and for over a year longer than the US.

73 NZ pilots serving with the RAF qualified as aces in the ETO.

Boru

And this really drives home how much I agree with you in how they handled their mass shooting. I think NZ handled WW2 amazingly and I also think they handled their Mosque shooting  recently in the same way.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yeah, those were handled the same way. After the mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand troops were immediately dispatched to Greece and North Africa.  

Boru

[The Valkyrie]

Yeah, but where were you when the orcs were raiding the West Fold.

Me?

I was leading the orcs.

Bloody wizards!

[The Valkyrie]

Here's a fact.

My great granfather on my father's side fought with the NZ Army through Greece, Crete, North Africa and didn't get a scratch (though he lost over 60% of his unit in Crete - Army Engineers).

His five brothers also served and not one of them was injured which is quite amazing considering the NZ casualties.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fuck me! 

I long understood that The US, out of all the allies really did do the least of the heavy lifting. I am not disparaging the likes of the D Day soldiers, but the truth is, that even Russia did most of the work in Europe. We did fight oppression and fascism, for sure. But for America to claim we were the leaders in WW2 was/is a stretch. We rightfully reacted, especially after Pearl Harbor, but the truth is, we still had a shitload of ally help.

Not surprised.

We supplied huge amounts of war materials to all the Allies. Mexico flew P-47s and P-51s in Europe. Lend-Lease shipped 500,000,000 buttons and eight sets of salt-and-pepper shakers. Monty kicked Africa Korps butt with American tanks. EVERYBODY drove jeeps. Britain ran on American oil and Spam. All five invasion beaches in Normandy were serviced by American landing craft.

It's kool to disparage the US in WWII, but lots of folks would be speaking German right now if we hadn't been in it.

[The Valkyrie]

Fuck me! 

I long understood that The US, out of all the allies really did do the least of the heavy lifting. I am not disparaging the likes of the D Day soldiers, but the truth is, that even Russia did most of the work in Europe. We did fight oppression and fascism, for sure. But for America to claim we were the leaders in WW2 was/is a stretch. We rightfully reacted, especially after Pearl Harbor, but the truth is, we still had a shitload of ally help.

Not surprised.

We supplied huge amounts of war materials to all the Allies. Mexico flew P-47s and P-51s in Europe. Lend-Lease shipped 500,000,000 buttons and eight sets of salt-and-pepper shakers. Monty kicked Africa Korps butt with American tanks. EVERYBODY drove jeeps. Britain ran on American oil and Spam. All five invasion beaches in Normandy were serviced by American landing craft.

It's kool to disparage the US in WWII, but lots of folks would be speaking German right now if we hadn't been in it.

I imagine most of Europe would be talking Russian.

But I agree, and Boru also stated elsewhere, that we likely would not have won without US supplies.

[Anomalocaris]

Most important WW2 fact:

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The good guys won.

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Boru

fools.   they think the good guys won the cold war too!

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We supplied huge amounts of war materials to all the Allies. Mexico flew P-47s and P-51s in Europe. Lend-Lease shipped 500,000,000 buttons and eight sets of salt-and-pepper shakers. Monty kicked Africa Korps butt with American tanks. EVERYBODY drove jeeps. Britain ran on American oil and Spam. All five invasion beaches in Normandy were serviced by American landing craft.

It's kool to disparage the US in WWII, but lots of folks would be speaking German right now if we hadn't been in it.

I imagine most of Europe would be talking Russian.

But I agree, and Boru also stated elsewhere, that we likely would not have won without US supplies.

it is complicated.  if there were no threat of a more powerful invasion from england than britain alone can possibly manage,   it is unlikely the soviet union could have fought the nazis to something better than a stalemate in central russia.

without american logic aid on a sale that greatly exceeded the total war prioduction in comparable items by nazi germany and occupied europe, the USSR certainly could never have achieved the material superiority they attained, nor managed the elastic, deep penetrating battles that cost germany much of her army on the east and let the USSR seize so much territory.

So without the US, it is likely germany would not be defeated, even if she could not conquer the world.

[Jackalope]

Yeah, but where were you when the orcs were raiding the West Fold.

Enjoying second breakfast, then elvenses, then luncheon, and tea, of course.