Trump vs Biden

[polymath257]

It depresses me that this is even close.

To think that Trump is popular enough with the American people after all he has messed up the last 4 years, well, it boggles the mind.

Even if Biden manages to squeak out a win, I'll be moving somewhere else soon.

[Fireball]

All right, who's the wise guy that put in a vote for the chump!? 

[AFTT47]

It depresses me that this is even close.

Indeed.

I am 61 now and I've lived my whole life as an optimist. I've always made an assumption of a basic goodness of the human species. If we see one of us kicking a puppy, we revile that individual, right? We rise up as a majority and set a standard that that kind of thing is unacceptable. That standard is passed down to the next generation and we improve as a species.

But now it seems we have taken multiple steps back.

Trump is amoral, shallow, ignorant and cruel. How can any decent human being look upon him and not recoil in revulsion? This is before we even address his competency to lead a nation. Yet 48% of Americans voted for this human shit stain. What does that say about us as a culture?

VERY depressing.

[Brian37]

1am edt Friday, still no call. But here is what is miffing, MSNBC had Biden at 253 and google and Fox news have Biden at 264.

Of course nothing is official but 270 To Win has Pennsylvania now ............ BAAAAA LUUUUUUUUEEEEE!

https://www.270towin.com/

[Anomalocaris]

It depresses me that this is even close.

Indeed.

I am 61 now and I've lived my whole life as an optimist. I've always made an assumption of a basic goodness of the human species. If we see one of us kicking a puppy, we revile that individual, right? We rise up as a majority and set a standard that that kind of thing is unacceptable. That standard is passed down to the next generation and we improve as a species.

But now it seems we have taken multiple steps back.

Trump is amoral, shallow, ignorant and cruel. How can any decent human being look upon him and not recoil in revulsion? This is before we even address his competency to lead a nation. Yet 48% of Americans voted for this human shit stain. What does that say about us as a culture?

VERY depressing.

I always found it intrinsically inconsistent to suppose the human species can possibly be basically good.      Good is by implicit definition a state better than what is par for the course,    What human species actually is, is by definition what is par for the course.   How can what is par for the course be expected to be better than par for the course?

I think the reason why we seem to regress is we seem to delude ourselves into believing the whole average will get better if only we pretend the portion that is dragging down the average would discover their own inner above-averageness if we credit them with above-averageness.

[Brian37]

The dust has not settled, but who the fuck would have thought Georgia would be this close?

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Right now Stacy Abrams is thinking, " Yea bitches!"

[ignoramus]

All right, who's the wise guy that put in a vote for the chump!? 

It was Putin.

I shouldn't say this but I'll let you guys in on it.
Au is 17 hrs in front, so we already know the answer! Biden won.
Trump was found not long after hanging from the office chandeliers with a suicide not pinned to his back by a knife.

Authorities have found nothing suspicious about it and have closed the case.

[Sal]

because half of 'merica identify with trump on some level.

They might think that, the cheeto in chief certainly doesn't identify with his voters.

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It depresses me that this is even close.

Indeed.

I am 61 now and I've lived my whole life as an optimist. I've always made an assumption of a basic goodness of the human species. If we see one of us kicking a puppy, we revile that individual, right? We rise up as a majority and set a standard that that kind of thing is unacceptable. That standard is passed down to the next generation and we improve as a species.

But now it seems we have taken multiple steps back.

Trump is amoral, shallow, ignorant and cruel. How can any decent human being look upon him and not recoil in revulsion? This is before we even address his competency to lead a nation. Yet 48% of Americans voted for this human shit stain. What does that say about us as a culture?

VERY depressing.

(bold mine)

We've always been shit, just ask @The Valkyrie, she knows.

I'm not gonna spin some psychological or anthropological or whatever bullshit about why we're so shit, because I honestly have no actual & tangible clue, but I will point to our "Very Nice" history (without actually giving specific examples, y'all know what I'm getting at).

Ask any historian worth his salt what they think about the shitstory of humanity, and I can almost guarantee you that without fail that it won't be pretty. From ancient archaeological digs and research all the way up to modern historians, will all say pretty much the same thing, but just at different epochs: "X did that for Y reasons and it was this much shit" or some variation of that historical recount. I honestly believe that.

I've found, from what little I know about humanity's history (I'm not a historian or an anthropologist), the same bullshit pattern emerges every fucking time, but never for the same reason. This pattern - I think - is that we are motivated ultimately by self-interest, and if that means bashing in some skulls at the oldest, or fucking with an election in the current epoch, so be it, it will be done without question and without hesitation.

We won't make it, but even with all this negativity, I'm still an optimist. We can change, we just have no incentive to do so. People throughout history - again, from what little I know from history - attempted to manufacture positive incentive for changing. The latest project is just called democracy and free speech, IMO.

Yeah, I'll go into a corner and cry from all this stupid speculation. /s

[Brian37]

BIDEN IS NOW AHEAD IN ........ DUT DUT DAAAA GEORGIA!

[Sal]

BLORGIA forever!