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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 9:57 am)Ahriman Wrote: Reading the Catechism would give you a better understanding of these things. There's only so much I can say, because my explanations are subjective, and it sounds like you want an objective explanation.
Which rules out the Catechism - I'd hardly call that an "objective explanation."
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 4:51 pm
I think Ahriman wants validation for believing in the bubble gum version of jesus.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 4:56 pm
Just curious what are your thoughts on hollow earth?
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 4:59 pm
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(August 16, 2021 at 4:42 pm)Astreja Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 9:57 am)Ahriman Wrote: Reading the Catechism would give you a better understanding of these things. There's only so much I can say, because my explanations are subjective, and it sounds like you want an objective explanation.
Which rules out the Catechism - I'd hardly call that an "objective explanation." It's as objective as it gets. It's not describing one person's subjective experience. It's a carefully constructed collection of ancient Catholic rites, viewpoints, and dogmas. It's really a great read, and there's a lot of natural repetition throughout the book, which helps solidify the canon.
(August 16, 2021 at 4:56 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Just curious what are your thoughts on hollow earth? I wouldn't know anything about that. It could be true. I have no idea.
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 5:02 pm
My favorite Jesus is the one described by Josephus in Book VI Chapter 5 Of the War. Four years before the war began, at a special event in the Tabernacle, Jesus began to cry out, “A voice from the east; a voice from the west; a voice from the four winds; a voice against Jerusalem, and the holy house; a voice against the bridegrooms, and the brides; and a voice against this whole people.” He went on and on, day and night. The people chastised him. Then, they beat him and whipped him until his bones lay bare. Some took pity on him and gave him food. All he would say to anyone was, "Woe unto Jerusalem." This went on for seven years and five months.
Then once the city was under siege by the Romans, Jesus went out to the main wall and cried with all his strength, “Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house.” And then he added, “Woe, woe to myself also.” At that very moment, a stone from a catapult hit him and killed him.
Hilarious.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-6.html
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 5:07 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 9:57 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 9:50 am)brewer Wrote: Nope, why should I? Raised evangelical lutheran until I escaped. What point are you trying to make, other than dodging my last question? Reading the Catechism would give you a better understanding of these things. There's only so much I can say, because my explanations are subjective, and it sounds like you want an objective explanation.
I was also raised catholic, so I know it is abject nonsense.
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 5:11 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 4:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 4:56 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Just curious what are your thoughts on hollow earth? I wouldn't know anything about that. It could be true. I have no idea.
Could be true? Are you serious? I hope you aren't being disingenuous. (I don't think you are.) But c'mon. Just a smidgeon of critical thinking suggests that hollow Earth is pretty unlikely.
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 5:24 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 5:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 4:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I wouldn't know anything about that. It could be true. I have no idea.
Could be true? Are you serious? I hope you aren't being disingenuous. (I don't think you are.) But c'mon. Just a smidgeon of critical thinking suggests that hollow Earth is pretty unlikely. How would anyone on these forums know? I don't think any of us have been to the center of the Earth.
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 5:48 pm
(August 16, 2021 at 5:24 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 5:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Could be true? Are you serious? I hope you aren't being disingenuous. (I don't think you are.) But c'mon. Just a smidgeon of critical thinking suggests that hollow Earth is pretty unlikely. How would anyone on these forums know? I don't think any of us have been to the center of the Earth.
What the hey, work is slow, I'll bite.
None of us need to have been; very smart people in fields applying to the subject have fleshed it out.
For example: http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2618
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RE: Who was Jesus?
August 16, 2021 at 5:51 pm
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(August 16, 2021 at 5:24 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (August 16, 2021 at 5:11 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Could be true? Are you serious? I hope you aren't being disingenuous. (I don't think you are.) But c'mon. Just a smidgeon of critical thinking suggests that hollow Earth is pretty unlikely. How would anyone on these forums know? I don't think any of us have been to the center of the Earth.
Well, sure. You could adopt a skeptical (or agnostic) position on it. But Occam's razor and all. You have to question everything we know about physics... stuff like that. There are good reasons to think that hollow Earth is false.
edit: ninja'd by Doc!
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