The Plan

[Spongebob]

A woman would've made our universe very much a "form over function" sort of thing, but since we clearly live in a universe that is the opposite of "form over function", we can safely conclude God is a masculine deity. Nothing misogynistic about it.

Not only can't you know what type of universe we live in with this stupid context, but you could never know what sort of universe any particular woman might create.  Thinking you do know these sort of things is quite delusional.  So all we can safely conclude is that you are an idiot.

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Why don't you explain in great detail why you think you know how a woman thinks.

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Well, thinking in terms of flesh and blood creatures, which would be more likely to invent something as intricate as our universe? A man or a woman?

Why would a masculine entity be more likely to create a more intricate universe?

For that matter, what is meant by an intricate universe?  Can you describe a universe that is not intricate?  How would it differ from the one we know?

[Silver]

Yet, since we're going this route, it stands to reason to conclude that god is female due to the fact that life springs forth from woman.

[LostLocke]

A woman would've made our universe very much a "form over function" sort of thing, but since we clearly live in a universe that is the opposite of "form over function", we can safely conclude God is a masculine deity.

Well, the universe isn't form over function. It is also not function over form.
So we can safely conclude the universe wasn't created to begin with, let alone if the "thing" that created it is male or female?

[UniverseCaptain]

If god is a thing it’s male and female at the same time and can impregnate itself. Only thing that makes any sense

[UniverseCaptain]

God drew up blueprints before he anything he did. He's got a really big office with them all perfectly filed

[Rahn127]

Given the really shitty plan, can you theists at least understand why we atheists don't believe in a really shitty planner ?

Moralistically we humans have better morals.
We humans could create a better plan.
It would seem to us that these collection of stories are man made and it shows.

[Spongebob]

Every plan typically has an end goal in mind.
Here are the plans to build my house.
Here are the plans to rob the bank to pay for the house.
Here is my plan to escape from the authorities should everything not go according to plan.

If you believe that a god exists and that everything that happens in the world, happens according to god's plan, then what is the end goal ?

Humans have been around on earth for a good 200,000 years, give or take a few thousand. Presumably all those people would be in hell. That was the plan for some 200,000 years.

Perhaps hell got too crowded or maybe God got tired of all those endless screams that he could surely hear all of the time for 200,000 years. That's a lot of screaming and torment for seemingly no reason.

Then came the bible as put together by Marcion.
Some would say the early Christians put together a bible as a reaction to what Marcion had done. They didn't want people reading what Marcion had cobbled together in his canon so they created their own.

They decided which books would be in their bible and which ones would be excluded. They decided.

So maybe now some people would finally get into heaven, except all those other people all over the world who had other religious beliefs.

Year after year. Century after century you still had millions going to hell and this was perfectly ok with God. All part of the plan.

Lots of wars, millions killed and still most going to hell.
Lots of babies who died from disease also in hell.
But hey, still all part of the plan.

If the goal was to have people in heaven, a god could just create that from the start right ?

But that's not the plan. That's not the goal.

Going back to the OP, a long time ago I read about a theory of sorts that relates god to the whole of the universe, which has intelligence and volition but not understanding.  In this theory, it was the universe's (god's) wish to understand all that could be understood and the method of learning was creation.  Thus god learns from every experience of every living thing in the universe and the process will end when god understand all.  I think this was the gist of it, at least.  Probably got something wrong.  Sounds metaphysical at least.

[Ahriman]

Going back to the OP, a long time ago I read about a theory of sorts that relates god to the whole of the universe, which has intelligence and volition but not understanding.  In this theory, it was the universe's (god's) wish to understand all that could be understood and the method of learning was creation.  Thus god learns from every experience of every living thing in the universe and the process will end when god understand all.  I think this was the gist of it, at least.  Probably got something wrong.  Sounds metaphysical at least.

Not going to happen. This learning process will not end. Your consciousness will always exist, in some form or another.

[Spongebob]

Going back to the OP, a long time ago I read about a theory of sorts that relates god to the whole of the universe, which has intelligence and volition but not understanding.  In this theory, it was the universe's (god's) wish to understand all that could be understood and the method of learning was creation.  Thus god learns from every experience of every living thing in the universe and the process will end when god understand all.  I think this was the gist of it, at least.  Probably got something wrong.  Sounds metaphysical at least.

Not going to happen. This learning process will not end. Your consciousness will always exist, in some form or another.

And you know this how?

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I can accept when someone says they believe such and such regarding god or the afterlife, but when things like this are stated outright, as if you know them the same way you know the sun is hot, it comes across as arrogant and easily dismissed. Absolutely no one will take such proclamations seriously.

[Ahriman]

Not going to happen. This learning process will not end. Your consciousness will always exist, in some form or another.

And you know this how?

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I can accept when someone says they believe such and such regarding god or the afterlife, but when things like this are stated outright, as if you know them the same way you know the sun is hot, it comes across as arrogant and easily dismissed.  Absolutely no one will take such proclamations seriously.

I tend to state my opinions in a very "matter of fact" sort of way, because I am confident in my opinions.