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Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 11, 2022 at 1:33 pm
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Forced socialization can be used to provide for a person's happiness, but at what cost? The person never learns how to rely on themselves to provide for their own happiness, leaving that person in a bad state if they should find themselves without friends or lovers. The term "socialism" implies the adherents of that system are going to be in a perpetual, even never ending state of being socialized, with the consequence that the adherents become slaves to their relationships.
This wouldn't be so bad, if it were not for the simple fact that people just naturally don't like being slaves. But should people even be allowed to determine their status as a free person or slave? Socialism doesn't give them the choice; people should be slaves, as a matter of fact and science. Socialism is something of a dead end for human evolution, as the endgame of that evolution, the full implementation of Socialism, has been reached.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 11, 2022 at 2:51 pm
There are various conceptions of what socialism is. What do you mean exactly by socialism? Are you talking about ownership of property here? Or government provisions, such as universal healthcare?
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 7:45 am
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Marx and Engels, in The Manifesto, never advocated the complete abolition of private property. In addition, it is pure historical calumny to say that they despised all aspects of capitalism; rather, they were opposed to the social consequences of capitalism that were present in their day but admired capitalism for its industrialness and encouragement of ingenuity and personal achievement.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 7:56 am
I think he got around to reading/watching 1984.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 7:57 am
Oh, those poor, enslaved Norwegians!
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 8:25 am
It's hard to argue with the infant mortality stat. In fact, the last that I read was that the United States and Cuba were in a dead heat for the World 39/40th spot in infant mortality.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 9:33 am
Quote:Oh, those poor, enslaved Norwegians!
Americans live wild and free, everyone out for themselves. Norwegians live more like domesticated animals. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's clearly working out for them.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 10:04 am
(February 12, 2022 at 9:33 am)Ahriman Wrote: Quote:Americans live wild and free, everyone out for themselves. Norwegians live more like domesticated animals. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's clearly working out for them.
This is how Americans like to think of themselves. In my experience I've found that my time is much freer if I don't have to work all the time to pay for health insurance.
Genuine eccentrics, and people who devote their lives to non-money-making passions, benefit from having a society where you can be poor but secure.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 10:15 am
(February 12, 2022 at 10:04 am)Belacqua Wrote: (February 12, 2022 at 9:33 am)Ahriman Wrote:
This is how Americans like to think of themselves. In my experience I've found that my time is much freer if I don't have to work all the time to pay for health insurance.
Genuine eccentrics, and people who devote their lives to non-money-making passions, benefit from having a society where you can be poor but secure.
Public, socialized healthcare is more efficient and effective, less paperwork and less bureaucracy.
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RE: Socialism, The "Forced Happy" Religion
February 12, 2022 at 10:18 am
(February 12, 2022 at 10:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: (February 12, 2022 at 10:04 am)Belacqua Wrote: This is how Americans like to think of themselves. In my experience I've found that my time is much freer if I don't have to work all the time to pay for health insurance.
Genuine eccentrics, and people who devote their lives to non-money-making passions, benefit from having a society where you can be poor but secure.
Public, socialized healthcare is more efficient and effective, less paperwork and less bureaucracy. Also much less of a challenge to live through.......
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