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May 8, 2023 at 5:16 pm
Archaeologists have discovered the sunken ruins of a 7,000-year-old road in the Adriatic.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88xgb5/a...r-old-road
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May 8, 2023 at 6:17 pm
Odd place to put a road.
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May 9, 2023 at 2:24 am
Atlantis!
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May 9, 2023 at 7:55 am
(May 8, 2023 at 6:17 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Odd place to put a road. So you're a roads scholar now?
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May 9, 2023 at 4:53 pm
(May 9, 2023 at 2:24 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Atlantis!
It seems like Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.
So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.
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May 9, 2023 at 5:24 pm
(May 9, 2023 at 4:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (May 9, 2023 at 2:24 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Atlantis!
It seems like Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.
So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.
I went through a period of time in my teens when I was fascinated by the possibility of Atlantis being real. I read several books about it. I think it was around the same time that I gave up on religion that I also gave up there being a real Atlantis.
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May 9, 2023 at 5:54 pm
(May 9, 2023 at 4:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (May 9, 2023 at 2:24 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Atlantis!
It seems like Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.
So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.
Maybe Plato's sources were a bit off. It can happen.
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May 9, 2023 at 6:06 pm
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(May 9, 2023 at 4:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (May 9, 2023 at 2:24 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Atlantis!
It seems like Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.
So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.
Geologically there is no possibility whatsoever that the literal interpretation of Plato’s description of Atlantis can be true. Plato probably spun a tall tale to help make a point, and the tale may have recalled some faint echo of a memory passed down through the mist of distant past of some sizable populated area being rapidly inundated. There are actually a number of archaeologically attested occasions when such inundation occurred in the Mediterranean and its surrounds.
It seems as barren an exercise to speculate which of these historic inundation events were the one that got blown up to an immeasurably bigger size to become the Atlantis of legend as it is to speculate which actual human got blown up into superstitiously overarching size to become Jesus one with god.
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May 10, 2023 at 3:53 am
(May 9, 2023 at 4:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (May 9, 2023 at 2:24 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Atlantis!
It seems like Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.
So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.
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What was (the size of) Lybia and Asia as Plato understood it?!
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May 10, 2023 at 5:47 am
(May 9, 2023 at 6:06 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (May 9, 2023 at 4:53 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: It seems like Atlantis could not have existed because it would have been too big not to be noticed by now. This is Plato's description of Atlantis: there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together.
So if there existed something bigger than Asia and most of Africa put together, someone else would have noticed it, as well as we would easily find remains of it.
Geologically there is no possibility whatsoever that the literal interpretation of Plato’s description of Atlantis can be true. Plato probably spun a tall tale to help make a point, and the tale may have recalled some faint echo of a memory passed down through the mist of distant past of some sizable populated area being rapidly inundated. There are actually a number of archaeologically attested occasions when such inundation occurred in the Mediterranean and its surrounds.
It seems as barren an exercise to speculate which of these historic inundation events were the one that got blown up to an immeasurably bigger size to become the Atlantis of legend as it is to speculate which actual human got blown up into superstitiously overarching size to become Jesus one with god.
Spot on. The best candidate would be Numenor, which was destroyed after Ar-Pharazon dared to set foot on the Undying Lands. Thereafter, the island was referred to (in Quenya) as Atalantë , meaning 'the downfallen'.
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