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If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 2:29 pm)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 21, 2023 at 12:29 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Nope. Not if 98% of all birds, insects, and reptiles are in egg form,”

How many eggs stay unhatched for…. How many days was the ark drifting around?

300 plus day?


Let’s hear more majik to explain it


Chapter and verse of gathering eggs please?

where you get 300? do you have book chapter and verse to support this number?

Maybe you oughta read and familiarize yourself with the story starting in gen 6 before you start trying to represent it.



40 days and 40 nights. 

chicken eggs hatch in 21 days
duck eggs hatch in 27 days
pheasant eggs hatch in ~20 days
song bird eggs hatch in ~10-15 days
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 2:32 pm)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 21, 2023 at 12:31 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Seems to me this god chap just tries to do things in the hardest most complicated way possibe, the best thing to do is have nothing to do with him/it

So... You know the cost of magic-ing that level of sin and debauchery off the earth, and have determined a flood is harder? if not how have you determined what God did is harder?

He can make a universe but has trouble with a bit of water and some animals?
Second rate god you got there!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
god's powers are only convenient when necessary.

Maybe, it's not a "god", but just some schlep who is like the Greatest American Hero. It found a magic suit, but there weren't any instructions.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
IF this shit were true we'd still have to allow the Earth to recover. We wouldn't have grasslands for the herbivores, that means very very very very few prey animals for the carnivores. Miles of water dropped on the Earth would have left a physical record. Believers say the Grand Canyon was carved as the waters "receded". The fact that one side of the canyon is a few hundred feet higher than the other militates against any rapid hydrological excavations.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 2:29 pm)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 21, 2023 at 12:29 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Nope. Not if 98% of all birds, insects, and reptiles are in egg form,”

How many eggs stay unhatched for…. How many days was the ark drifting around?

300 plus day?


Let’s hear more majik to explain it


Chapter and verse of gathering eggs please?

where you get 300? do you have book chapter and verse to support this number?

Maybe you oughta read and familiarize yourself with the story starting in gen 6 before you start trying to represent it.

I stand corrected


Genesis 7:24

New International Version
24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.


Genesis 8:3

New International Version

The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%208&version=NIV][/url]


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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
Answers in Genius says 370 days

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timel...-timeline/


What say you R-Farmer?

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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 1:02 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(June 21, 2023 at 12:29 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: How many eggs stay unhatched for…. How many days was the ark drifting around?

300 plus days?
Worse, 30days and 30nights.  A chick would hatch before it stopped raining.  The storm is my favorite part.  Fuck the boat.  Years ago I sat down and worked out what the atmospheric pressure would have to be like in a one month storm that flooded the world.  Imagine that every inch of the entire sky was a steam boiler that just exploded.

I’m sure R will come along soon to tell us it was global, and it wasn’t that much rain.  Just enough to run up over the riprap and get your socks wet.
incubation periods take any where from 9 to 80 days in larger birds. Plus there is a 10- 21 day period that an egg will stay viable, before it needs to be incubated.

This is if God doesn't step in and do anything to keep them viable longer than their normal dormancy period.

They were only in the ark a total of a 150 days. And if they hatched while on the ark so what.. 

Let's say a chicken egg that God did nothing to, went 10 days then was incubated another 3 weeks. so a total 4 weeks or 30 days into the 150 day or approx 5 month journey. that's 30 days of no feeding no cleaning up poop, nothing. then after they hatch 4 to 6 month later they start laying eggs again..

The point is for anywhere between 19 to 100 days  (dormant/incubation period) there is no need to feed care for or clean up after these birds.

If again God does nothing different. If you are looking for a magic act and in your mind god need to 'magic' something in this story, then have him 'magic' the dormancy period of the eggs. 

Or

Don't. as it truly makes no difference, other than making more work for Noah and his house inorder see to the needs of those eggs.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 1:24 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: I hope Religious-Farmer sticks around

It’s fun getting him to think for himself and watch him step on his dangly thing

You are a dude R?

Proverbs 3:5-6
New International Version
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
   and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
   and he will make your paths straight.[a]
Am I male? yes.. 

You do understand what a proverb is, and isn't right?
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 2:10 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: i would take an egg that’s going to hatch into a chicken that takes 3 cubic feet of space no more than 21 days after being laid and at least 19 days before it stop raining anyway?
You know that chickens do not hatch out of the egg fully grown right? when they hatch they take up about as much room as the egg it self takes up. The egg is not a Tartarus. It then takes 4 to 6 months for a chicken to reach maturity.  So if the complete journey from day one of the rain till the stepped out of the boat was 150 days, why wouldn't you take something that eats a fraction of the food and takes up a fraction of the space for the duration of the journey?

Quote:come to think it it, none of the common barn yard fowls or common game birds, with which our farmer friend must surely be acquainted, takes as long to turn from egg to hungry clucking space consuming live birds as it took to stop raining, much less when the ark finds my Ararat?

 it took 40 days and nights to stop raining. what are you asking. maybe look at the response I did for nudger if you are concerned with incubation cycles.

Quote:i am not sure which exhibits a greater degree of mind numbing ignorance,   thinking there could possibly be any basis in fact for genesis in the 21st century,   confusing scientific conjecture or hypothesis with biblical bullshit, or calling himself a farmer and not knowing the 1st thing about chicken eggs?

can you give an example where I demonstrated a confusion between conjecture or a hypothesis, or not knowing anything about chicken eggs.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 21, 2023 at 2:41 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: It was a question for you..
Gen 7 24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

Quote:You are far more up on this word of god than I am.


How long did they drift around after the 40 days and night rain storm?
150 - 40 = 110


Quote:Had to be long enough for an olive tree to sprout leaves? Or was that majiked also?

IDK. It would seem to me maybe the tree survived from before the flood because it takes a really long time from a olive tree to grow. seems to make more sense that the tree somehow survived  and maybe began to sprout some leaves on a branch, that the bird saw and took. the Bible does not give specific detail out side of green leaves on an olive branch was used to indicate that the water had receded enough for life to start over.
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