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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 12:54 pm
(July 29, 2023 at 5:00 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Ok, Anom. Let's engage in a little verbal duelling: Firstly, it's dishonest of Militant Anti-Christian Atheists like you not to first of all put up one of your own, a Famous Anti-Christian Atheist, to compare and contrast with our Famous Founder in Teaching, Morality, Life and Example. Whoever it is, it is the easiest thing in the world to show Jesus Christ vastly outstrips him or her in Universal Morality. Thus I took the example of that Famous Anti-Christian Atheist Darwin. He called Christianity a "Damnable Doctrine" through projection. He was a known Racist.
Darwin was an abolitionist though still a man of his times. You need to pick better villains.
"I have watched how steadily the general feeling, as shown at elections, has been rising against Slavery.— What a proud thing for England, if she is the first Europæan nation which utterly abolishes it.— I was told before leaving England, that after living in Slave countries: all my opinions would be altered; the only alteration I am aware of is forming a much higher estimate of the Negros character.— it is impossible to see a negro & not feel kindly towards him".
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 12:56 pm
(July 29, 2023 at 7:28 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Lol. Not a Racist. Darwin said: "It is very true what you say about the higher races of men, when high enough, will have spread & exterminated whole nations.” Both a false moral teacher and a false Prophet, since that never happened.
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:02 pm
Oh pls. Defend this if yu can, Mister Agenda:
In 1881, toward the end of his life, Charles Darwin wrote to a colleague that the “more civilised so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.”1 This was not just some offhand comment unrelated to Darwin’s science. It reflected important elements of his theory of human evolution. Indeed, he articulated this same principle in his scientific study of human evolution, The Descent of Man (1871), where he claimed, “At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races.”2 Not only racism, but racial extermination was an integral feature of Darwin’s theory from the start.
This is a position that has been articulated by many historians of science.3 Two prominent historians specializing in the history of Darwinism, Adrian Desmond and James Moore, mince no words about the racism inherent in Darwin’s theory. In their magisterial biography of Darwin, they state, “‘Social Darwinism’ is often taken to be something extraneous, an ugly concretion added to the pure Darwinian corpus after the event, tarnishing Darwin’s image. But his notebooks make plain that competition, free trade, imperialism, racial extermination, and sexual inequality were written into the equation from the start — ‘Darwinism’ was always intended to explain human society.”4
No one, what on Earth was your question again. Between all your cussing and blasphemies, I must have missed it. I'm not afraid of any question and have answered several. I also answered your question about Christ in the Hindu Scriptures in the other thread. You should listen to Aravindaksha Menon's Life Testimony, formerly a Devout Hindu, now a Devout Christian, as is his entire family, after experiencing the Love and Power of Jesus Christ in their lives.
Mister Agenda, to answer something else I saw you asked, yes, if you could say with a sincere heart what Lincoln did that I quoted, you'd be a Devout Christian too. Of course you don't believe that. Or do you? Do you believe the Truth is proven by All History that Nations are Blessed whose God is the Lord? That's what Lincoln said and if you believe that, then there's no debate and we've won.
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:04 pm (This post was last modified: July 29, 2023 at 1:05 pm by Nishant Xavier.)
President Lincoln, Devout Christian. Q.E.D. How many of you are doing what Lincoln said you should do, either as individuals or as a Nation? Obviously none of you, otherwise we wouldn't even be having this debate in the first place. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/document...and-prayer
Quote:
Whereas the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has by a resolution requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation; and
Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord;
And, insomuch as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth, and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us.
It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.
Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do by this my proclamation designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. And I do hereby request all the people to abstain on that day from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite at their several places of public worship and their respective homes in keeping the day holy to the Lord and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.
All this being done in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the divine teachings that the united cry of the nation will be heard on high and answered with blessings no less than the pardon of our national sins and the restoration of our now divided and suffering country to its former happy condition of unity and peace. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this 30th day of March, A. D. 1863, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty-seventh.
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:06 pm (This post was last modified: July 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm by Fake Messiah.)
That was the language of the upper Victorian upper class of 19th-century imperial England. Darwin was a more moral guy than Christians who enslaved Africans, force them into baptisms, and gave them Christian names.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm
None of you obviously meaning the Christians apart, lol. Good Job to the other Christians here. Of course we will win, not because we're excellent debaters or something, but simply because Truth is on our side. Read the facts for yourselves and make your own independent judgment. But the evidence is very clear.
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:08 pm
(July 29, 2023 at 1:04 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: President Lincoln, Devout Christian.
Again, Lincoln was maybe a Christian but he was not a devout Christian.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:08 pm
Oh, if only *Devout* Atheists were Devout like Prez. Lincoln. ROTFLOL:
"Whereas the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has by a resolution requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation; and
Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord;"
RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 29, 2023 at 1:10 pm (This post was last modified: July 29, 2023 at 1:11 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(July 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Of course, we will win, not because we're excellent debaters or something, but simply because Truth is on our side.
Yeah right, people will throw away evolution, become Christian, start beating adults for sex crimes around Churches, go to Crusades, abandon democracy, and let popes pick leaders. Dream on, pedo apologist.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"