Science of Atheism

[arewethereyet]

Science can ignore religion. Religion is afraid of science.

Science should ignore religion. I ignore science and religion.

And technology, it would appear.

[Data]

The scientists would be glad to leave the theists alone, but the theists can't stand the thought of someone not believing in their hokum.

Scientists have noting to do with it. I'm not talking about scientists I'm talking about idiot fundamental militant atheist retards like you.

I have less of a problem with someone not believing like me than you do and by a substantial margin.

[Bucky Ball]

Science should ignore religion. I ignore science and religion.

We already know that. It's why we ignore you.

You're a liar. If you were having severe chest pain, you would call 911.
The phone you use is provided by science. The computer you're typing on here is a product of science.
You're just "oblivious". It's not at all unusual.

[Silver]

[FrustratedFool]

@Data
"Specifically I'm talking about ideological fixation as a vehicle for blind adherents and the people who take advantage of the blind ignorance it must perpetuate. Divide and conquer and the atheist vs theist conflict being more a product of that than anything else."

So you see atheist v theist primarily as just another tribal/ideological conflict.

OK. I'm sure there's a degree of tribalism in some behavior of some people on those sides. But it doesn't seem particularly pronounced anymore than other divides, like sports teams or politics or nationality. If anything it seems far more about substantive issues.

But it's just a seems type of thing. It seems that way to you, it seems another way to me. I just focus on the person I'm talking to, mostly, and not see them as a representative of this or that other.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Science can ignore religion. Religion is afraid of science.

Science should ignore religion. I ignore science and religion.

If science ignored religion, religion would have the only voice in the matter. We'd go back allowing exceptionally nice atheists to have a bag of gunpowder hung around their necks when they are burned at the stake.

[SuperSentient]

That's why I want an exchange of ideas here. I want to learn, not from the books of science, but from adversity. Both sides. Without the propaganda.

If you really want to challenge yourself against perspectives other than your own, you can try picking topics of interest and begin researching with some deep reading. The internet provides us with a vast collection of information. If you get proficient in web surfing, you can find so many things (even pirate books for free hehe). There is loads of scientific information and many who do a great job simplifying it for layman to read. 
A simple formula to start with for developing critical thinking skills is to make attempts to falsify some of your own beliefs by setting aside time to read critical sources and skeptics. 

I truly believe that if more people were willing to do this, there would be more coming to the realization that science is actually a very good friend of critical thinking and freethinking, and such a helpful tool in developing our understanding of the world. It starts with a shift in mindset, challenging my very own deeply held beliefs was a good start for me.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Science can ignore religion. Religion is afraid of science.

Science should ignore religion. I ignore science and religion.

What a mindwobblingly stupid video. God isn’t ‘a different kind of explanation’. God is no explanation at all. It’s an excuse used by people who can’t count past ten with their shoes on.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It’s an excuse used by people who can’t count past ten with their shoes on.

Boru

...or their pants up.

[Bucky Ball]

The unnecessary struggle between theism and atheism is a social and political struggle that has very little to do with God or the Bible or any other religion.

Good journal article here on cognitive biases.

The commitment "my group good their group bad" is a consistent block to clear thinking.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177...6221148147

tl:dr
How about you summarize it for us. 
Agree in general. 

There is no difference between theism. Christian contemplative Christianity, ("Dark night of the Soul", "The interior Castle") agnostic atheism, Christian (English) The Cloud of the Unknowing, Chinese Tao Mysticism, and any modern Cistercian (Benedictine) mystical prayer, or any other "way" people have worked out to be their best. Being your best involves discipline and a few other things. They all work the same. Religion is not needed. They all end up in the same place. 
Thus Voltaire's "Il faut cultiver nos jardins" should be all their mottos. Pick you way, it all ends up in the same place, and no religion has any claim to a better way.