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RE: Palestine
October 14, 2023 at 9:41 pm
Whether or not the specific hadith Hamas cited can be considered genuine is irrelevant, since the point is that Hamas treats it as true enough to put it in their own fucking charter and let it inform their ideology and actions.
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RE: Palestine
October 14, 2023 at 9:45 pm
(October 14, 2023 at 9:09 pm)WinterHold Wrote: They attacked Israeli civilians because Israeli army does it all the time, it's the law of Islam to treat aggression with aggression: This is one of the core issues with winter.
He has no problems with violence, cruelty, or genocide, AT ALL. As long as he can point to someone else doing it first, or doing it worse, he is absolutely fine with all of the above. It's a repeating pattern with him.
He is indeed a monster, and I bet he really wonders why we think so.
It's always the monstrous people with honest conviction who are more scary to me than just ruthless killers, who know they are evil but don't care. It's the people who think they are actually paragons of goodness, who are the most scary.
And here we are full circle with the good ole Nazis. That's why Heydrich and Himmler were so scary.
Same for winter.
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RE: Palestine
October 14, 2023 at 9:46 pm
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(October 14, 2023 at 9:19 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And is there a reason you assume that we actually approve of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (the only actual use of nuclear weapons in warfare)? At best, it was a failed attempt at getting an extremely obstinate enemy to surrender that ended up creating a mess of problems in its wake.
America shot itself in the foot by that explosion to be honest with you, it's a mark of shame now on the U.S, just like the beheading that ISIS did was a mark of shame on them.
Brutality must have a limit, or it will become a mark of shame; sometimes forever.
And TBH, I don't believe nukes on Japan were to deter Japan only; but was to introduce America as power number 1 in the world.
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October 14, 2023 at 9:54 pm
(October 14, 2023 at 9:46 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Brutality must have a limit, or it will become a mark of shame; sometimes forever. It does not need to have a limit.
It's the law of Islam to treat aggression with aggression.
And if we end up killing each other indiscriminately, you can at least point the finger always to others, right?
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October 14, 2023 at 10:32 pm
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Quote:There's something I don't understand, Boru: countries like the U.S even nuked civilians when their civilians got "scratched" in Perl Harbor, and Palestinians are not allowed to hold themselves to the human-beings level?
As long as you forget that Japan was pursuing Atomic Weapons too and had no issue butchering civilians and displaying their decapitated heads
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October 15, 2023 at 2:03 am
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WinterHold Wrote:It's officially an ethnic cleansing practiced by Israel in Gaza.
You are too dumb for reading news. The article says "Palestinians are in grave danger of mass ethnic cleansing", in danger of happening, and not that ethnic cleansing happened.
WinterHold Wrote:America shot itself in the foot by that explosion to be honest with you
The US shot you in the head with that bombing because it is an unavoidable part of every one of your mindless rants.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Palestine
October 15, 2023 at 2:24 am
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(October 14, 2023 at 9:09 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 14, 2023 at 7:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, you’re unable to condemn the attack. The atrocities committed by Israel do not excuse or justify those committed by Hamas, and vice versa.
Your refusal to condemn the monstrosity of Hamas’ actions is no different from the media lauding the monstrosity of what Israel is doing in Gaza. The only difference is one of degree, not of kind.
You’re a monster yourself.
Boru
They attacked Israeli civilians because Israeli army does it all the time, it's the law of Islam to treat aggression with aggression:
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.com/2?startingVerse=190
(190) Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits. Allah does not like transgressors.
(192) Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.
(193) But if they cease, then surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Just like Israel raids Palestinian civilians, Hamas would also raid Israeli civilians.
Just like Israel bombs cities like Gaza, Hamas would bomb cities like Tel Aviv.
If Israel cease -like verse 193-, Hamas should cease.
There's something I don't understand, Boru: countries like the U.S even nuked civilians when their civilians got "scratched" in Perl Harbor, and Palestinians are not allowed to hold themselves to the human-beings level?
And always, Allah is merciful. There is always a chance to cease and end this bloodshed. If Israel chose peace, Hamas is forced to choose peace also.
First and foremost, I don't give a wet fart what the Quran has to say about this, or about anything else.
Secondly, Israel has no more right to attack residential areas in Gaza than Hamas has to attack a music festival.
Thirdly, your Pear Harbor argument is nonsensical and out-of-place. Pearl, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki were all legitimate military targets.
Last (and most importantly), Allah can kiss me bony, Irish bum.
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RE: Palestine
October 15, 2023 at 7:43 am
(October 14, 2023 at 9:46 pm)WinterHold Wrote: And TBH, I don't believe nukes on Japan were to deter Japan only; but was to introduce America as power number 1 in the world.
As an added bonus the Emperor surrendered less than a month later.
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October 15, 2023 at 7:49 am
(October 15, 2023 at 2:03 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: WinterHold Wrote:It's officially an ethnic cleansing practiced by Israel in Gaza.
You are too dumb for reading news. The article says "Palestinians are in grave danger of mass ethnic cleansing", in danger of happening, and not that ethnic cleansing happened. Maybe that's why we get the Gog and Magog stuff. He thinks prophecy is news.
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RE: Palestine
October 15, 2023 at 7:58 am
(October 14, 2023 at 9:09 pm)WinterHold Wrote: There's something I don't understand, Boru: countries like the U.S even nuked civilians when their civilians got "scratched" in Perl Harbor, and Palestinians are not allowed to hold themselves to the human-beings level? I don't know why you're focusing on the nukes when we crossed the strategic bombing Rubicon much earlier in the war. To be sure, it was entirely in retaliation for the London Blitz.
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