Atheist Evangelism

[FrustratedFool]

OK, we can agree to disagree. I think religion will die out anyway, and I'll be happy.

[no one]

Religion has been with hoomankind for some time now, it won't die out. It may evolve past its current rendition, but it has latched on, and is with the species for the long haul.

[Fake Messiah]

But can someone name me something that Scientology does that is not bad or harmful and is useful? And if there isn't anything why would Christianity be different?

[Angrboda]

But can someone name me something that Scientology does that is not bad or harmful and is useful? And if there isn't anything why would Christianity be different?

Give people something to do. Idle hands are the devil's workshop.

[no one]

Scientology provides comic relief.

[Deesse23]

Feeding people and  preaching to them is preferable to starvation. That does not make it a good thing tho. One thing being preferable to another does.not.make.it.a.good.thing.

Feeding people withOUT preaching (or preying on) to them is even more preferable, and a good thing.

There, wasnt so hard, people, was it?

Who said anything about preaching to them?

I am not a fan of trading the needs of some people for preaching. But if someone is hungry or in need and there's nowhere else to turn, I'd rather a person get a meal now and again.

Back in the day I had to go to the food pantry at the Catholic church because my child needed to be fed and there was no place else to go. Also, after being written off by my parents when I got pregnant with my first, Catholic Charities gave me a crib and some other supplies that I needed desperately. Would I rather not have had to resort to baby blankets made by old Catholic ladies? Yeah, but the bottom line is sometimes you do what you have to do to survive.

I am not so high and mighty that I can't accept help when it's offered. Now I try to give back.

[Brian37]

OK, we can agree to disagree.  I think religion will die out anyway, and I'll be happy.

That is an impossibility on a planet of 8 billion. It would be nice to think so, but the reality is most humans get sold the beliefs/religions of their parents in youth long before they can formulate adult critical thinking skills. And people prefer quick feel good answers over harsh reality. It is scary for most humans to think there is nothing after death. The though of an afterlife is a mental way of comforting oneself, no matter how false the perception.

[The Grand Nudger]

@The Grand Nudger

I'm curious - when it's supper time at your home, do you feed your kids or hand them the cash equivalent of the food?

Boru

When me and my kids were poor as shit and on public assistance it was a snap account, and not the handing out of cans of peas, that fed us.  

The problems with direct food aid are well known and profusely written about.  This is silly to argue over. I was asked my opinion. I answered. I don't think that direct food aid charities are a good thing in the first place. So of course I wont think christian direct food aid charities are a good thing - even before we talk about the out and out scams..again, not illegal here in the states.

[FrustratedFool]

Just a matter of time. 100 years, 500 years, 1000 years.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yeah I get that, I also think that at least some religions are a net positive.  Just not the ones running pantries and kitchens at present.  The reality of the charitable food space is a fucking horror show, at present. Not just because it's filled with dominionist pieces of shit, but because it's also filled with Not That™ that hasn't yet learned a crucial and objective lesson.  That as immediately satisfying as all of their work is....and it is...it's not helping, it's making things worse.

This was not the case at the pantry where I volunteered. Non-denominational, funded by a cross-section of Protestant churches, proselytizing -- or requiring church attendance, etc -- was forbidden. Whether they got more in grants than they gave in food, I don't know. But I know the people we helped ate that day, without being fed a line of bullshit too.