Afghan girl's choice: 12 years in jail or marry your rapist.

[Shell B]

Kilic, there may be a handful of American Taliban. That doesn't change the fact that Afghanistan was full of the fuckers before we ever got there. It is one thing to be an elitist fuck. It is an entirely other thing to state fiction as fact to feed into your nationalist ego. It was Afghan Taliban that first went to war with the people Afghanistan and it still is. Don't be stupid in order to feel right. There is no fucking way you can spout that stuff and convince anyone here that it is true. Get a fucking grip. I mean that in the nicest way.

[Minimalist]

"A nation" full of these?
Or just the taliban?

There does not seem to be all that much of a difference between the Taliban and the Karzai government. Might that be because the problem is the barbaric culture of Afghanistan based on a crazy old book of bullshit?

[R-e-n-n-a-t]

This is not Islam as such, this is just tribal barbarity wearing the face of Islam. These pricks would be be the same regardless of what religion they where parading around.

I agree that these people would be exactly who they are regardless of their religion. I disagree that this "is not islam, as such". Islam is nothing if not the actions and ideals of muslims. There's nothing else to religion but the people who follow it. It's a tool that justifies whatever someone was going to do or be regardless. Muslims make islam, islam does not make muslims.

Very well said.

[Minimalist]

And, on that note....

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2011122...L78O0.html

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Authorities in Iran said Sunday they are again moving ahead with plans to execute a woman sentenced to death by stoning on an adultery conviction in a case that sparked an international outcry, but are considering whether to carry out the punishment by hanging instead.

Why does Islamic "justice" always remind of this line from Woody Allen's Love and Death.

To be executed for a crime I never committed.

Of course, isn't all mankind in the same boat?
Isn't all mankind ultimately executed for a crime it never committed?


The difference is that all men go eventually, but I go six o'clock tomorrow morning.

I was supposed to go at five o'clock, but I have a smart lawyer. He got leniency.