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Empathy is the best tool
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RE: Empathy is the best tool
June 28, 2025 at 4:49 pm
Empathy is for members of any social species. Even the felons have to use it if they want to be convincing con artists.
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June 28, 2025 at 5:31 pm
It's gonna get pretty dark awfully quick for the nuts if they ever manage to truly convince the rest of us that empathy is the problem with america today.
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RE: Empathy is the best tool
June 29, 2025 at 3:01 pm
(June 28, 2025 at 2:41 pm)Rizen Wrote: Empathy is for losers and I say that as an observable fact, not to be inflammatory. We just elected a convicted rapist, felon and fraud who want to force Christianity upon the country. Where's the empathy in that? Nice guys finish last. People respond to strength, not empathy.

I don't see any utility in that. Even if it's true, the proper action is to change it, not to accept it.
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RE: Empathy is the best tool
June 30, 2025 at 5:08 am
(June 28, 2025 at 2:43 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The concept of empathy as a tool bothers me.  To me it smacks of something you emulate to get something you want.  It sounds manipulative to me, and it sounds too much like faking empathy.

Not a fan of the concept.

'When your only tool is empathy, everyone else's problem looks like yours.' - Kal-El, inveterate do-gooder.

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RE: Empathy is the best tool
June 30, 2025 at 9:31 pm
(June 30, 2025 at 5:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 28, 2025 at 2:43 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: The concept of empathy as a tool bothers me.  To me it smacks of something you emulate to get something you want.  It sounds manipulative to me, and it sounds too much like faking empathy.

Not a fan of the concept.

'When your only tool is empathy, everyone else's problem looks like yours.' - Kal-El, inveterate do-gooder.

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Which I suppose is a good tactic until you find a problem that legitimately isn't like yours.
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RE: Empathy is the best tool
June 30, 2025 at 9:37 pm
(June 12, 2025 at 4:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: @Forever Sophist

Quote:If you’re secular, you don’t have a divine command telling you how to treat others. You probably ground your ethics in humanism, empathy, or some kind of utilitarian concern.

I don't see that this bit matters much at all. I'm not terribly concerned if a believer is empathic because of Matthew 7:12, or an atheist is empathic because of Bentham's utilitarianism. I'll take empathy, no matter the source.
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Frankly, these days, it seems like a divine command is probably far more of an impediment to empathy than anything else. 



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