The new atheists and The war on History

[Epimethean]

If you're going to claim anything that man labored on whilst christianity was a power as "coming out of christianity" I can list a few dozen nastier things you probably wouldn't want to accept the blame for (on behaf of christianity). So maybe you shouldn't make such an infantile argument? Modern medicine came from man's long standing quest for knowledge and a longer life. Both of with are anathema to the christian faith.

I do not make statements, I present the facts.

1).
Fact
The Christian European civilization, is the dominant model in the world.

2)
Fact
The Chinese have discovered the compass, paper, printing, and gunpowder
Fact
All those listed above, have not contributed anything to the success of their civilization ( were barbarians when they met with Europeans)

3).
Fact
Islam has been in contact with knowledge from India, China, Greece, and had access to all world knowledge of the time.
however....where that brought tham?

4).
Sumerians, Egyptians, Astec, Maia, all had amazing knowledge in the areas as astronomy, medicine, mathematics yet... modern science, and the dominant model in the world, happened to occur in Christianity?
that it must be a coincidence, it must because it must

becaus you as atheist you are not ready to accept another version
so it must.

Fact: You know fuck-all about facts. Evidence in your post as quoted.

[Whateverist]

I do not make statements, I present the facts.

Sure looks like statements to me. Or did you mean it isn't you who is making them? Or did you mean that they are factual statements? Do you feel you are unique in presenting facts?

1).
Fact
The Christian European civilization, is the dominant model in the world.

Without some qualifiers this is not only a statement of opinion but also an over-the-top generalization.

2)
Fact
The Chinese have discovered the compass, paper, printing, and gunpowder
Fact
All those listed above, have not contributed anything to the success of their civilization ( were barbarians when they met with Europeans)

"Barbarian" doesn't fit in a statement of fact. You have a cultural bias of unseemly proportion. (Bigot.)

3).
Fact
Islam has been in contact with knowledge from India, China, Greece, and had access to all world knowledge of the time.
however....where that brought tham?

Bigot.

4).
Sumerians, Egyptians, Astec, Maia, all had amazing knowledge in the areas as astronomy, medicine, mathematics yet... modern science, and the dominant model in the world, happened to occur in Christianity?
that it must be a coincidence, it must because it must

becaus you as atheist you are not ready to accept another version
so it must.

Nice. Cast dispersion on other cultures and go out with an accusation that it is atheists who cannot accept another version. You sir are a fool. Bye bye.

[Epimethean]

Like many xtian apologists, he's an ignorant asshat with a garage-load of fucked up biases.

[LarissaAnn]

"We have no idea how the library was destroyed" therefore we assume that they were Christians!
Though here, we speak of the Byzantine empire, that kept all the knowledge of antiques that we do have, in reality all the parents of the eastern church, as
Basil the Great or John Chrysostom were scholars in Greek philosophy.
In this time in the west, the classical culture disappears from most places. But not because Christians wanted to destroy the ancient culture

John Chrysostom (that son of a bitch for this very reason) got a mob of Christians together and destroyed the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus. Considered among the SEVEN WONDERS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD and only ONE COLUMN now remains BECAUSE of Christians.

Thanks a lot assholes



The temple figures in several Christian stories, and it would be a famous Christian archbishop that ultimately destroyed it.

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In 401, the temple was finally destroyed by a Christian mob inspired by "golden-tongued" Saint John Chrysostom, who had recently come to Ephesus as its archbishop. Its marble stones were used in construction of other buildings, and some of the columns in Hagia Sophia originally belonged to the temple of Artemis.[4]

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entr...of_Artemis

[Minimalist]

Yes, xtians are ignorant thugs and an orthodox anything is the worst of the worst.

[DreadLock]

ahh sweet thanks for the video