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[Tiberius]

So let them think they've won. What does it matter to you?

[Jackalope]

The trouble is if you step back and ignore them from that point where logic is rejected and it turns to ridicule, they think they won and you had no answer!

The key here is to stop caring what stupid people think.

[Norfolk And Chance]

So let them think they've won. What does it matter to you?

This is an atheist forum so although theists are welcome, atheists should always win - it is our home ground!

[Mister Agenda]

Drich, I've oftened wondered, if there is a God who created the universe, why is there God instead of nothing?

[mediamogul]

So let them think they've won. What does it matter to you?

This is an atheist forum so although theists are welcome, atheists should always win - it is our home ground!

We can't give up control of the Unholy Land!

[Drich]

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[quote]It's really that simple? [/quote]
Yep.

[quote]So if I made the pronouncement that I was the "alpha and the omega" and wrote it down in a book like the bible, then I too could be outside of time and eternal?[/quote]It depends on when you wrote the book.

[quote] Apparently that is all it takes for your God to convince you that it's so. How do you know it's true?[/quote]Because in that book a great number of promises were given to the believer a very long time ago. The full fillment of those promises points to the truth.

[quote]He or his designated scribes say so. Well okey dokey then. Oh, wait a minute. I don't happen to believe everything in the bible is true, inspired, infallible or much of anything else. [/quote]What you personally believe is irrelevant to your original Question. Why? Because you asked Who made God? The question you ask acknowledges the existence of God for the intended purpose of the exploration of this question. My answer does not force belief outside of the parameters of the frame work of your original question. So in short, if Belief in God is such a foreign concept to you that you can not except His existence with in the parameters of your own question, Then you should not have asked the question to begin with.

[quote]So I guess I'll need more evidence. What reason do you have to think there is any creature whatsoever outside of time? Real evidence?[/quote]Can you give an example of what "real evidence" looks like outside of time? Perhaps then I might be able to provide something for you.

[downbeatplumb]

Drich in your mind what would a univerese without god look like?

To my mind it would look like this one.

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Can you give an example of what "real evidence" looks like outside of time? Perhaps then I might be able to provide something for you.

You see this rock?



It's fucking real. Need more evidence?

[Drich]

I came here looking to bring clarity and understanding to those interested in Christianity. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Question: How do you expect to bring clarity and understanding about Christianity when not a single one of you have a clear understanding about what 'god' even is?

How have you come to this conclusion?

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Again to my knoweledge i have not changed anything.

Your original post was substantially larger than what your post is now. You must of deleted a large chunk of it shortly after posting it.

Unless I'm seeing things. Which let me tell ya, I ain't prone to doing.

I can assure you that i have not changed any posts in this thread. (Not sure how to do any of that yet.) I did post several replies in the noah's ark thread.. Maybe you guys are confused, about when what was said where..

[Tiberius]

So let them think they've won. What does it matter to you?

This is an atheist forum so although theists are welcome, atheists should always win - it is our home ground!

Irrelevant. Location should not have any bearing on the strength of one's arguments. I've bested theists, and been bested by theists in this forum, and I'm not afraid to admit it. The notion that atheists should always be right is ridiculous.