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I Am An Atheist! Ask Me A Question!
#71
RE: I Am An Atheist! Ask Me A Question!
Quote: Because to claim that a God created everything requires an extra step. Who created God? If the answer to that is that God has always existed why not just save a step and say the Universe has always existed, in one form or another.

There is no reason for a God. Nor is there any evidence. The Universe looks and behaves exactly as it should if there were no God.


i didnt claim that , i asked whats the difference between saying god created or big bang created
u believe big bang exist before everything ur the same as anyone who believe in god
but ur god name is big bang
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#72
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No, there's a big difference.

The big bang was an event that took place prior to the formation of the current universe.

God is supposedly an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent entity that 'created' the universe for a reason. A being that has a plan for all of us, peers into our minds to see what we are thinking and judges us after we die.

The two are really quite different.
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#73
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(August 24, 2009 at 8:23 am)jamal Wrote: i didnt claim that , i asked whats the difference between saying god created or big bang created
u believe big bang exist before everything ur the same as anyone who believe in god
but ur god name is big bang

I answered it, in fact I have answered several of your posts with no response yet you act as if no one dealt with it!

To claim that the big bang is our god is insane ... we do not worship it, there is no ritual associated with accepting it and many more accepted characteristics of religious belief are absent from an acceptance of the big bang.

Kyu
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#74
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(August 24, 2009 at 8:28 am)Darwinian Wrote: No, there's a big difference.

The big bang was an event that took place prior to the formation of the current universe.

God is supposedly an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent entity that 'created' the universe for a reason. A being that has a plan for all of us, peers into our minds to see what we are thinking and judges us after we die.

The two are really quite different.

ur preaching now !!
don't quote religions, did u see big bang happen ? whats before big bang ?
i'm not talking about what god can do
i'm talking about u believing in something that has no beginning called big bang
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#75
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I'm not preaching. I'm answering questions that have been asked of me.

I didn't see the big bang happen, no. Did you see God create the Universe?

What I believe (although that is not the best word to use) is based on study, observation, deduction, experimentation, mathematics and the life's works of countless determined scientists giving their lives to the tireless devotion of the study of the Universe.

Some may say that the only reason you believe what you do is because you have been indoctrinated from an early age.
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#76
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(August 24, 2009 at 8:37 am)Darwinian Wrote: I'm not preaching. I'm answering questions that have been asked of me.

I didn't see the big bang happen, no. Did you see God create the Universe?

What I believe (although that is not the best word to use) is based on study, observation, deduction, experimentation, mathematics and the life's works of countless determined scientists giving their lives to the tireless devotion of the study of the Universe.

Some may say that the only reason you believe what you do is because you have been indoctrinated from an early age.

u didnt answer me , u believe the big bang is right and is a fact
isnt the big bang has no beginning ?
is it not the first and the beginning and the creator of all according to scientists ??
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#77
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The Big Bang is an event. Before that there was a singularity that was infinitely dense where the laws of physics did not apply.

This singularity had no cause as for there to be a cause there must be time and time did not exist. So, it is quite accurate to say that the nothing created the universe as there was no before.

The notion of a God is simply because pattern seeking humans cannot grasp the idea that the Universe was not created for us and does not have to conform to our, primitive, understanding.
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#78
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(August 24, 2009 at 8:42 am)jamal Wrote: u didnt answer me , u believe the big bang is right and is a fact

I did and if you don't start answering soon I will be tempted to resort to moderation.

(August 24, 2009 at 8:42 am)jamal Wrote: isnt the big bang has no beginning ?

It is the one event past which we cannot see at present; maybe it does maybe it doesn't ... certainly it doesn't have a beginning in a time sense because time is understood to be an inherent property of this universe and so there isn't, in the accepted sense, a before at all.

(August 24, 2009 at 8:42 am)jamal Wrote: is it not the first and the beginning and the creator of all according to scientists ??

Not in the god like sense you wish to get us to admit ... as I said earlier (and you ignored) to claim that the big bang is our god is insane! We do not worship it, there is no ritual associated with accepting it and many more accepted characteristics of religious belief are absent from an acceptance of the big bang.

Kyu
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#79
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wow !! first darwanian said big bang created time and now its not ?

and who talked about worshiping , i just asked if u believe that big bang is the starter of all but always talk about god i dont know why

and u always say that people follow religion cuz thats what they were introduced to from early age , what about Jewish convert to islam, Christians to Islam , what about ppl born for atheist family converted to Islam ?

i believe in islam not beacuse i'm born muslim, because the book we have from 1400 has the fact of big bang , has the fact that light of the moon is reflected from the light of the sun , has the fact of celestial matter, the fact of water cycle, the stages of creation of a child in his mother whom, the fact that we all creatures created from water,facts On The Sensory Characteristic Of The Skin,Facts About The Seas And Oceans, Facts From Astronomy, even fact of ur finger prints and many more

all this in one book taken from the words of a man as u all say , a man didnt know how to right or read, and wasn't a scientist , 1400 years ago

and after all of that he says its not his word , its the words of god
who else am i going to believe ? u the one who say u evolved from apes , or him who give us a book that has a challenge no one can win , a challenge stand for 1400 years with no attempt to win , get a book like it , or just one chapter like it
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#80
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What?

Did you actually read and understand anything that was said to you at all?

We have already done the whole Quran facts thing and demonstrated that everything that Muslims claim is written in it that couldn't have been known before are wrong.

There is NOTHING written in that book that wasn't already known about by the ancient Greeks, Romans etc.
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