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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 7:42 pm
(October 31, 2008 at 7:39 pm)S_Truth Wrote: (October 31, 2008 at 7:26 pm)bozo Wrote: (October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm)S_Truth Wrote: (October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm)bozo Wrote: (October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: leo-rcc Wrote:Oh I think I understand you very well. You are one of those people that seem to think that everything must have a purpose, even when there is no real need for one. Butterflies can do very well without purpose, monkeys can do very well without purpose, pretty much every animal on the planet can go without purpose. Yet because you as a thinking conscious animal have a need for purpose because most things around you serve a purpose to you.
I never called you any names, and nothing was censored. You have me confused with bozo. S-Truth....how can I put it in a way that won't injure your fragile sensibility? fucking wanker
Leo...avoid bad company!
By calling me names do you actually think it hurts me. It just makes you an irrational, stubborn, and ignorant person.
To call a person who uses rational and logic to define what he says bad company is another way to be stubborn and ignorant to the facts. repeat, you are a time-wasting,irrational, annoying wanker now fuck off and go to heaven...and if i get there ill punch your lights out. got it?
I am in heaven who said heaven was in only one place. Just keep repeating that I am a irrational person maybe you'll start believing in that eventually. They say repittion is one of the best ways to make one believe in something that is not true. you're really weird.Have you had counselling? It's bollocks but you will find it really challenging.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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October 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Thats all i wanted to prove and i proved my point so i see no further reason to stick around. Logical, open minded, and nothing is impossible. Ponder over that if you have the ability to, if not develop it.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 7:46 pm
As I stated before, flawed logic, nothing to consider.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 7:48 pm
(October 31, 2008 at 7:46 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: As I stated before, flawed logic, nothing to consider.
as I said before...fucking wanker.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 7:49 pm
You do still have to explain to me how you can be both at the same time.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 7:53 pm
(October 31, 2008 at 7:49 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: You do still have to explain to me how you can be both at the same time. it's getting late..I don't have a clever answer....we scousers use the f word indescriminately...will that do?
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 7:55 pm
(October 31, 2008 at 7:53 pm)bozo Wrote: (October 31, 2008 at 7:49 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: You do still have to explain to me how you can be both at the same time. it's getting late..I don't have a clever answer....we scousers use the f word indescriminately...will that do?
Works for me.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 10:35 pm
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2008 at 10:50 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
S-Truth wrote:
Quote: Just keep repeating that I am a irrational person maybe you'll start believing in that eventually. They say repittion is one of the best ways to make one believe in something that is not true.
You say this however you have repeatedly asked me this same question :
(October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end. And yet I have already answered this several times, I'll have to repeat myself again because you are asking exactly the same question and all I can do is give you my best answer, which I have already given several times. Ok I'll try and make myself very clear and go into more detail, I'll also give a short version of the answer afterwards. Try and understand what I have already answered this time: We are born because of our parents and if you mean why does life and living things including humans exist in the first place, then basically I will say that there isn't a reason. Why does there have to be one? Its just in human nature that we have evolved to think everything has an intention behind it. This is called the intentional stance. We can transcend it, but it can be difficult to do so sometimes because it is counter-intuitive to our evolved human nature. The intentional stance is important for human survival. Atleast it was in particular back in the 'stone age' and also probably back in prehistoric human times aswell.
Now, if you agree with me or merely if you understand what I believe, I shall say that since this is all natural and there is no real "Why?" to the existence of the universe, living things and therefore of course also including us humans, then it doesn't mean all the mystery is gone. It just means that we try to research and unlock the mysteries of life rather than settling with just "living in mystery" and it also means that the question to ask, and the curious wonder to have, is to ask "How?" instead of "Why?.
Ok to conlude with the short version of the answer, I will quote you again first: (October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end. There is no reason. We should ask "How?" instead of "Why?" because there is no ultimate purpose and no intention behind the universe besides intelligent beings such as ourselves.
(October 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Thats all i wanted to prove and i proved my point so i see no further reason to stick around. Logical, open minded, and nothing is impossible. Ponder over that if you have the ability to, if not develop it. Yes nothing is impossible, but that doesn't mean everything is probable. Or anything you desire to believe in is probable. Nor does it mean everything is equiprobable.
This seems to me like a case of the sort of thing Richard Dawkins was referring to when he said the following: "There's this thing called being so open-minded your brains drop out.".
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 10:43 pm
S_Truth is a flake. You came in, asked a weird, vague question, then rejected every single answer, even ones which agreed with your hypothesis, loudly restated your question, then claimed you'd proved something.
Seriously, I'm sure a lot of people agreed with you when you came in here and said that athiests see life without an overlying purpose, except you indicated that was an awful thing, while I personally wondered why.
Our existence is proof enough that you get by without having a massive carrot on a massive stick. I see no meaning to life, and but I'm happy and haven't offed myself yet.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
February 25, 2009 at 6:30 am
life has meaning, it is up to yourself what the purpose of life is.
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