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Intelligent Design
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Intelligent Design
What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed? I've seen the bit that Neil Degrasse Tyson did on it, but what else can I put into my arsenal? (More specifically, about how complex flowers are and other things in nature)
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RE: Intelligent Design
Usually when they want to use that argument, they basically argue for deism, then make a giant leap from "creator god" to "my theistic god". How do you get from "the universe needed a creator" to "Yahweh/Allah/Jesus is lord"? You could google a long list of creator gods that people have worshiped, so all you've done is narrow it down to them at best. And they're not just different versions of the same guy.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Intelligent Design
Quote:What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed?

By pointing out the evident sub-optimal 'design' we see around us. If human beings were intelligently designed, then it becomes pretty tough to rationally explain things like cancer, tooth decay, vestigial organ, or our obviously close relationship to other primates.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Intelligent Design
oops.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Intelligent Design
This is good:

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integri...nssJFnC7s0

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is good:

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integri...nssJFnC7s0

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

Just as a question for someone educated thoroughly on evolution... What's the explanation for the difference in gender?
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RE: Intelligent Design
Common sense and a science book.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Veritas Wrote:
(December 23, 2015 at 7:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is good:

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integri...nssJFnC7s0

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

Just as a question for someone educated thoroughly on evolution... What's the explanation for the difference in gender?

Just as a question for someone who clearly has internet access...You do realize you can look up these things yourself, correct?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 7:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Veritas Wrote: Just as a question for someone educated thoroughly on evolution... What's the explanation for the difference in gender?

Just as a question for someone who clearly has internet access...You do realize you can look up these things yourself, correct?

Boru

Dodgy
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RE: Intelligent Design
Don't go getting pissy with me, new guy. You can operate a search engine as well as anyone here.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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