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"How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock," (Psalm 137:9).
Below is the take from one of the apologetics.
http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/job-s...g-children
In a nutshell:
1) Just because the bible says so does not mean God approves it. (I thought the bible was the word of God
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2) You cannot judge God on his morality. Even if he commits atrocities, humans have no right to judge him on that.
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Actually - we DO indeed have a right to judge - because the god is claimed to be ALL GOOD and ALL JUST. If the evidence is to the contrary - we can reject those claims.
However- even if you think that this particular statement may not have the approval of a god (NONE actually do in any writings - gods are myth) - one cannot overlook the many actions OF THE GOD in the bible that were unspeakably immoral.
In every population - there are children - from new born infants to very young children who have NOT yet reached the age of reason - and responsibility. They cannot actually "sin" as even established by the religions themselves - what can a 2 month old do - to deserve to be Drowned - or killed in a "passover" - both supposed acts of the god itself - not of any human. In fact - in ancient times - where the life expectancy was below 30 - these children (The catholic church says that age 7 is the age of reason) - represent about 20 percent of the population.
To KILL them in a flood or in the "passover" is simply murder - pure and simple.
THE only good thing is that the stories of the Old Testament are largely false - just fairy tales. Archeology has established that the the Hebrews did not even exist at the claimed time of most of them. No moses - no abraham - the battle of Jericho did not happen - no adam and eve - I could go on. THE hebrews were not in bondage to Egypt either - no Exodus.
So - these stories are all nonsense - but then without the old testament - there is NO basis for the new one.
"How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock," (Psalm 137:9).
Below is the take from one of the apologetics.
http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/job-s...g-children
In a nutshell:
1) Just because the bible says so does not mean God approves it. (I thought the bible was the word of God
)2) You cannot judge God on his morality. Even if he commits atrocities, humans have no right to judge him on that.
-----
Actually - we DO indeed have a right to judge - because the god is claimed to be ALL GOOD and ALL JUST. If the evidence is to the contrary - we can reject those claims.
However- even if you think that this particular statement may not have the approval of a god (NONE actually do in any writings - gods are myth) - one cannot overlook the many actions OF THE GOD in the bible that were unspeakably immoral.
In every population - there are children - from new born infants to very young children who have NOT yet reached the age of reason - and responsibility. They cannot actually "sin" as even established by the religions themselves - what can a 2 month old do - to deserve to be Drowned - or killed in a "passover" - both supposed acts of the god itself - not of any human. In fact - in ancient times - where the life expectancy was below 30 - these children (The catholic church says that age 7 is the age of reason) - represent about 20 percent of the population.
To KILL them in a flood or in the "passover" is simply murder - pure and simple.
THE only good thing is that the stories of the Old Testament are largely false - just fairy tales. Archeology has established that the the Hebrews did not even exist at the claimed time of most of them. No moses - no abraham - the battle of Jericho did not happen - no adam and eve - I could go on. THE hebrews were not in bondage to Egypt either - no Exodus.
So - these stories are all nonsense - but then without the old testament - there is NO basis for the new one.
