What is it about America? Does America's education system just suck?

[MeOwnThing]

I have probably said it before .... the American education system sucks

From what I hear, lots of things in America suck. Politics, religion, education system.

[kılıç_mehmet]

I have probably said it before .... the American education system sucks

From what I hear, lots of things in America suck. Politics, religion, education system.

Then how the fuck does it come to pass that the US is the Rome of today?
With so many things that suck, I believe that they should have destroyed themselves by now.
But they are still there, although I'm fairly certain that they will destroy themselves at a near or distant future.

[5thHorseman]

Theyre on a downward slide, but that was inevitable with China's move towards capitalism in the 70's.

America got there at a time when they were very different, as was the world.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I have probably said it before .... the American education system sucks

From what I hear, lots of things in America suck. Politics, religion, education system.

Indeed. That makes the common claim of 'the greatest country in the world' both irritating and hilariously ironic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7mUaKUp8Ho

[kılıç_mehmet]

Theyre on a downward slide, but that was inevitable with China's move towards capitalism in the 70's.

America got there at a time when they were very different, as was the world.

China can hardly become an America in the way that America has a grasp around the world like ancient Rome did in it's times.
China has been rather...Static throughout it's history, while the US was born out calamity and change. Just like Rome.

[Minimalist]

Ok - so now we know you are a complete fucking moron..... although the "christian" in your ID is also a giveaway.

Even with budget cuts, the U.S is still spending way more on education than most or all of the mostly well-educated countries. However, I have to support Polaris on the incompetent teachers bit. It is really hard to get even a terrible teacher fired.

50% of new teachers leave the profession within 5 years because it is such a great fucking job.

We also spend more on health care than any other nation and that is in the shitter, too.

Coincidence?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

China has been rather...Static throughout it's history, while the US was born out calamity and change. Just like Rome.

What an hilariously stupid and ignorant,but typical thing to say. Perhaps take the trouble to actually read a bit on the violent and chaotic history of China.

[kılıç_mehmet]

China has been rather...Static throughout it's history, while the US was born out calamity and change. Just like Rome.

What an hilariously stupid and ignorant,but typical thing to say. Perhaps take the trouble to actually read a bit on the violent and chaotic history of China.

Hilariously stupid and ignorant?
Violence and a few sustained invasions, wars, changes of dynasties and civil war does not really make you less of a static nation or country.
As a matter of fact, when I see that China has hit the modern ages a lot later than Japan, a country which it has intensely influenced, makes me wonder. And it's people, so content with their pitiful existence, and the mentality of an ant hive, makes me really wonder.
China is static, and will remain static. It really can't move any further than the direction the world allows it to move.
Another of it's kind is India, another static nation.

[CaseyTheAthie]

The only setback there is that these past few and current generations are too damn lazy to do the legwork. There are grants, super low interest loans that they don't have to start paying on until a year after the finish school, there is the military education benefits. There are many options, but because it doesn't come to them they don't got for it. SO that my friend is bullshit. I know because I did it and several of my friends have too. It's not because it costs, it's because they are lazy.

Well, super-low interest loans are still loans, friend. Who wants to start outside with a debt attached to his back? Especially in the current situation of our world where finding a job is as hard as findind a needle in a heap of hay?
Laziness is another matter, a lazy person would not choose to go to college, but there are probably those who do, and cannot due to the high costs of going to a good university in the US.

Far as I'm concerned you do whatcha gotta do. You CAN deal with it. Hell for 50k in loan my minimum payment was 100 a month. Even working a minimum wage job all that would be is cutting some damn grass on off days. Still don't think it's a good excuse.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Well, super-low interest loans are still loans, friend. Who wants to start outside with a debt attached to his back? Especially in the current situation of our world where finding a job is as hard as findind a needle in a heap of hay?
Laziness is another matter, a lazy person would not choose to go to college, but there are probably those who do, and cannot due to the high costs of going to a good university in the US.

Far as I'm concerned you do whatcha gotta do. You CAN deal with it. Hell for 50k in loan my minimum payment was 100 a month. Even working a minimum wage job all that would be is cutting some damn grass on off days. Still don't think it's a good excuse.

I believe you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. No matter how well the paying conditions might be, a country and a nation should provide for the education of the children of the country. Even a dollar of debt each month is not a good thing in my eyes.
Do not misunderstand me. These might sound like words of a communist, but these are actually ideals that should be associated with anyone who loves his country and nation, and wants it to grow. For a nation to grow, it needs educated people. Why does America feel the need to constantly attract scientists from around the world? Are they so incompetent as to raise their own?
I certainly think that it ought to have something to do with these educational fees, otherwise people would not feel the need to go and join the army for the army to pay the education fees, which puts people of ambition and perhaps great skill and intelligence into the fireline, and steals valuable time from them.