Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 13, 2024, 1:35 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Oklahoma Sentences Teen to Attend Church
#21
RE: Oklahoma Sentences Teen to Attend Church
(November 19, 2012 at 1:49 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(November 19, 2012 at 10:42 am)Faith No More Wrote: Which is still illegal and was enough to get manslaughter charges to stick. I don't like the judge using church as a punishment, but that does not change the fact that the kid should be grateful for not being incarcerated.

If we're so ready to discard the consistent application of law -in reference to the limits it imposes on itself - by law....when we feel that we've "gotten off the hook" what room do we have to complain about that process when another who we feel is undeserving gets off the same hook? Should we be grateful when the law convicts a violent offender and then simply says "don't do it again - get your ass some jesus boy" as they take off the cuffs?

If we were interested in demanding justice ourselves at some point, we would encourage people to demand that the law be carried out properly and consistently even when it is to their detriment. We wouldn't encourage people to be grateful when it hasn't been..simply because that failure to do so was beneficial to them (in truth..it isn't). A defendant who stands before the court demanding that they sentence him appropriately as they attempt to "let him off the hook" has a much greater claim to any future "justice" than the one who slithers off content to have gotten away with what they had been convicted of. This person can no longer make demands of the law (imho- and it cuts both ways, a law that operates like this can no longer make demands of us).

Obviously, the relief of avoiding punishment can toss this whole justice thing to the curb pretty thoroughly. But we aren't doing ourselves any favors if/when we do so. Not something specific to this particularly "sentencing", just as a general aside with regards to what one "should be grateful for".

Being raised in a very affluent area and seeing first hand how having wealth gets one off a great many hooks, I wholeheartedly agree. The law is the law, it should be applied to everyone in the same fashion, no exceptions. Okay, maybe not zero exceptions, but very, very few... I'm thinking of a situation where a battered wife shoots and kills her husband, even though he wasn't currently beating her, and even that is a matter for the defense team to present to a jury.
Reply
#22
RE: Oklahoma Sentences Teen to Attend Church
(November 19, 2012 at 1:12 pm)festive1 Wrote: I remember hearing rumors about the Church youth "lock-ins" being a den for BJ's... But then again, oral sex isn't sex, right?

Neither is anal!

(November 19, 2012 at 1:49 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If we're so ready to discard the consistent application of law -in reference to the limits it imposes on itself - by law....when we feel that we've "gotten off the hook" what room do we have to complain about that process when another who we feel is undeserving gets off the same hook? Should we be grateful when the law convicts a violent offender and then simply says "don't do it again - get your ass some jesus boy" as they take off the cuffs?

If we were interested in demanding justice ourselves at some point, we would encourage people to demand that the law be carried out properly and consistently even when it is to their detriment. We wouldn't encourage people to be grateful when it hasn't been..simply because that failure to do so was beneficial to them (in truth..it isn't). A defendant who stands before the court demanding that they sentence him appropriately as they attempt to "let him off the hook" has a much greater claim to any future "justice" than the one who slithers off content to have gotten away with what they had been convicted of. This person can no longer make demands of the law (imho- and it cuts both ways, a law that operates like this can no longer make demands of us).

Obviously, the relief of avoiding punishment can toss this whole justice thing to the curb pretty thoroughly. But we aren't doing ourselves any favors if/when we do so. Not something specific to this particularly "sentencing", just as a general aside with regards to what one "should be grateful for".

I'm not saying it's right. In fact, I think it's quite wrong. I'm saying that kid owes that judge a reach-around.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Notes from Oklahoma Brian37 3 882 November 10, 2016 at 6:42 pm
Last Post: Doubting Thomas
  Apparently Oklahoma Loves Being Sued Minimalist 14 2470 May 22, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Last Post: TheRocketSurgeon
  This Must Be Shit On Oklahoma Day. Minimalist 1 577 May 20, 2016 at 12:43 am
Last Post: SteelCurtain
  Fuck You, Oklahoma Minimalist 4 1806 May 21, 2014 at 6:07 pm
Last Post: Losty
  The Supreme CourtTells Oklahoma to Fuck Off Minimalist 41 9086 November 15, 2013 at 11:43 am
Last Post: Minimalist
  Hungarian court sentences racist murderers to life in prison and 13 years Something completely different 52 17087 August 6, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Last Post: kılıç_mehmet
  Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years? Mystical 54 14148 March 27, 2013 at 9:37 am
Last Post: Autumnlicious
  Oklahoma law maker breaks the first amendment...... with spelling errors! TaraJo 16 18558 November 17, 2012 at 2:33 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Oklahoma's "Every Sperm is Sacred" bill. Ziploc Surprise 10 4100 March 1, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Last Post: KichigaiNeko
  Oklahoma Personhood Act. passionatefool 3 1645 February 28, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)