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Quote:-Our government is one of the people, by the people, for the people, and we will ensure it stays that way.
In your whole litany of pointless quotes, John, I had to point this one out.
It is not true now and probably never was. When Lincoln said it he was attempting to compel 35% of the population to remain in that government at bayonet point.
Are you really unable to see that this country is run by shadowy special interests and be content to mouth silly slogans to make yourself feel better?
Remember, 30,000 Americans died as a result of guns last year without a single tyrant being overthrown. Try to understand what the fuck you are arguing for instead of throwing up red-herrings about your fantasies of "revolution."
January 10, 2013 at 11:37 am (This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 11:59 am by LastPoet.)
(January 10, 2013 at 10:38 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:
(January 10, 2013 at 4:34 am)JohnDG Wrote: Muslims obviously did that, but check out syria were arming the taliban to the teeth while fighting them in iraq and afghanistan. And if you want to say it's just politics, for a good cause or for profit fuck you for providing the mean's the kill American's.
The Taliban is a Afghanistan - Pakistan based organisation. Syria is not Pakistan nore Afghanistan.
And please post your sources which conform this statement.
What kind of aid is given to the resistance in Syria and by whom?
And when posting an answere give sources.
And I would like to know how this in some way gives credibility to Alex Jones and his army of fools.
Quote:-This country was not only founded upon the right to bare arms, but also is the reason we won it in the first place.
Most historians would agree that the US victory during the revolution came manly through the fact that the Dutch, French and Spanish Kingdoms declared war on Britain to side with the colonists.
French spending to support the colonists was massive and the Spanish annoyed the brits quite alot by invading Florida.
But it was especialy the French who helped the revolution to be a success.
Something conservative Americans love to ddeny.
Quote:-As Americans we simply choose to excercise all of the rights we have to the fullest.
A meaningless statement.
Quote:-As americans we want to ensure that we will always and truely be free. Nobody is going to enslave us or take away our right to a free lifestyle. No thug can enslave us with fear. No government can enslave us physically or with unjust laws.
Another meaningless statement.
Quote:-Our government is one of the people, by the people, for the people, and we will ensure it stays that way.
Another meaningless statement.
Quote:-"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." -Thomas Jefferson
Quote mining.
Quote:-"To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them."
George Mason
"I am a fool! My personality is a void! My intelect is non existant! Therefor I can only participate in debates by using quotes which I find to be nice!"
- WAFULULULULULUUUUUUU the second, King of the secret nazi moon base.
Quote:-"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance, They are the people's liberty's teeth."
President George Washington
"I stupid, I must quote"
King Kong.
Quote:-Police cannot be everywhere at once, and it is up to us citizens to protect ourselves, our family and property.
Probably the single rational and true statement.
Quote:-Without the ability to project an equal force your chances of survival are limited.
Equal force to what? Survival?!?!?!?!?
Survival in what? The jungle? The nuclear Wasteland?
Another meaningless statement.
Quote:-"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troop."
Noah Webster
"I am to stupid to bring arguments in a debate myself, which is why I resort to endlessly quotting people."
Georg Blitzkrieg, the inventor of the cat.
Quote:-You must give up your freedom for security, but with freedom you maintain security yourself.
Freedom is a term which can be so loosly defined that it requires a specific definition of what freedoms are meant.
Another meaningless statement.
Quote:The best reason why we have them.
huhuhuhu cant wait to hear it.
Quote:-"We are the first modern European nation to achieve complete gun control" - Adolph Hitler
The national socialist goverment only changed gun laws in Germany after taking power once, in 1938.
Here`s what Hitler thought was gun control:
Quote:"The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition."
Quote:Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP party members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions.
Quote:The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.
Quote:The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.
Quote:Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.
I like the american laws. I am all fore the right to bare arms.
But you are the kind of moron who let`s people like me look bad.
So does everyone who uses this Hitler quote to justify low gun regulations.
What Hitler thought was good gun regulation, was that jews could no longer own firearms you stupid idiotic morons!!!!!!!!!!!!
Try read a history book!!!!!!!!!
Or at least have the reasoning not to lie about German history when theres a German Try read a history book!!!!!!!!!
Quote:"I am to, [i](should be 'too' here instead of to) stupid to bring arguments in a debate myself, which is why I resort to endlessly quotting, (quoting), people."[/i]
....for someone who spells as badly as you do, you should probably refrain from calling others, morons, stupid, and idiots...
1).nore - (nor)
2). answere - (answer)
3). especialy - (especially)
4). ddeny - (deny)
5). excercise - (exercise)
6). truely - (truly)
7). intelect - (intellect)
8). existant - (existent)
9). "I am to stupid..." - (should be 'too' instead of 'to')..."Go to...", "That's too much..."
10). "...which is why I resort to endlessly quotting people" - (should be spelled, 'quoting')
11). loosly - (loosely)
12). goverment - (government)
13). "Try read a history book!!!!!!!!!" - ("Try reading a history book!!!!!!!!!")
14). "I am all fore the right to bare arms." - ("I am all for the right to bare arms.")
15). "But you are the kind of moron who let`s people like me look bad." - (But you are the kind of moron who lets people like me look bad.")...let's is a contraction used to shorten 'let us'
16). "Or at least have the reasoning not to lie about German history when theres a German arround!!!!!!!" - ("Or at least have the reasoning not to lie about German history when there's a German around!!!!!!!") - you should have used the contraction, there's, instead of theres...there's - there is....and arround is spelled with one r...around
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
January 10, 2013 at 11:55 am (This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 11:58 am by A Theist.)
(January 10, 2013 at 11:46 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: I really like it when people point out my spelling mistakes to me, because one of the reasons I am here is to improve that.
But if you do it, simply to anoy me, or to depart attention from the arguments delivered, or to somehow depart credibility from these arguments.
Then fear the rath of the Germans.
Yeah well, you need to watch that...especially when you call someone else a moron, or that they're idiotic and stupid...
sorry dude,...
anoy - (annoy)
rath - (wrath)
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
January 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 12:13 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(January 10, 2013 at 11:37 am)A Theist Wrote: ....for someone who spells as badly as you do, you should probably refrain from calling others, morons, stupid, and idiots...
English is not his native language and our language is really fucked up when it comes to spelling rules. In German, everything is spelled as it sounds, making it all that much harder to adjust to our language. So I think he gets a little slack, even if he's calling others stupid.
It would be like one of us screwing up the gender of a German noun. Their system of the gender of nouns, like our spelling, requires nothing but pure memorization of every word. Since we come from a language where everything is neuter except for living beings, it's harder for us.
In fact, he has a better command of the English language than most Tea Baggers.
Follow up to that last post, a point TGAC might enjoy.
When I studied German and I realized the female chest was masculine ("Der Bosen") and the male chest was feminine ("Die Brust"), I knew I'd just have to memorize every word.
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... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
(January 10, 2013 at 11:37 am)A Theist Wrote: ....for someone who spells as badly as you do, you should probably refrain from calling others, morons, stupid, and idiots...
English is not his native language and our language is really fucked up when it comes to spelling rules. In German, everything is spelled as it sounds, making it all that much harder to adjust to our language. So I think he gets a little slack, even if he's calling others stupid.
It would be like one of us screwing up the gender of a German noun. Their system of the gender of nouns, like our spelling, requires nothing but pure memorization of every word. Since we come from a language where everything is neuter except for living beings, it's harder for us.
In fact, he has a better command of the English language than most Tea Baggers.
Follow up to that last post, a point TGAC might enjoy.
When I studied German and I realized the female chest was masculine ("Der Bosen") and the male chest was feminine ("Die Brust"), I knew I'd just have to memorize every word.
The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:
Quote: I really like it when people point out my spelling mistakes to me, because one of the reasons I am here is to improve that.
....then I would think TGAC appreciates that I pointed out his spelling errors to him with their corrections.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
January 10, 2013 at 12:31 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 12:31 pm by Something completely different.)
(January 10, 2013 at 12:25 pm)A Theist Wrote: The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:
Quote: I really like it when people point out my spelling mistakes to me, because one of the reasons I am here is to improve that.
....then I would think TGAC appreciates that I pointed out his spelling errors to him with their corrections.
I also wrote:
(January 10, 2013 at 11:46 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: But if you do it, simply to anoy me, or to depart attention from the arguments delivered, or to somehow depart credibility from these arguments.
So yes I do apreciate it, if done honestly and non condacendingly
(January 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: When I studied German and I realized the female chest was masculine ("Der Bosen") and the male chest was feminine ("Die Brust"), I knew I'd just have to memorize every word.
Indeed the number of exceptions with our geneder nouns is very high, and not easily remembered such as in French or Spanish.
And especialy the different plural forms drive people mad.
(January 10, 2013 at 12:31 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:
(January 10, 2013 at 12:25 pm)A Theist Wrote: The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: ....then I would think TGAC appreciates that I pointed out his spelling errors to him with their corrections.
I also wrote:
(January 10, 2013 at 11:46 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: But if you do it, simply to anoy me, or to depart attention from the arguments delivered, or to somehow depart credibility from these arguments.
So yes I do apreciate it, if done honestly and non condacendingly
(January 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: When I studied German and I realized the female chest was masculine ("Der Bosen") and the male chest was feminine ("Die Brust"), I knew I'd just have to memorize every word.
Indeed the number of exceptions with our geneder nouns is very high, and not easily remembered such as in French or Spanish.
And especialy the different plural forms drive people mad.
Quote:So yes I do apreciate it, if done honestly and non condacendingly
....you mean as condescending as you were to JohnDG?
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:So yes I do apreciate it, if done honestly and non condacendingly
....you mean as condescending as you were to JohnDG?
Oh be condacending if you like, I just wouldnt appreciate it. But couldn`t do anything else but whine arround, although I`D probably chose to ignore it.
And his post was full of bullshit, and the best way to call out bullshit id to take it and smear it under the nose of the origin.
January 10, 2013 at 12:56 pm (This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 1:05 pm by LastPoet.)
(January 10, 2013 at 12:44 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:
(January 10, 2013 at 12:40 pm)A Theist Wrote: So yes I do apreciate it, if done honestly and non condacendingly
....you mean as condescending as you were to JohnDG?
The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:Oh be condacending if you like, I just wouldnt appreciate it. But couldn`t do anything else but whine arround, although I`D probably chose to ignore it.
And his post was full of bullshit, and the best way to call out bullshit id to take it and smear it under the nose of the origin.
Quote:And his post was full of bullshit, and the best way to call out bullshit id to take it and smear it under the nose of the origin.
....which is why your nose was smeared in it.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.