(January 21, 2013 at 7:36 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: So it is not wrong.
Scum shouts, scum gets a reaction
muhammeds purpose
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(January 21, 2013 at 7:36 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: So it is not wrong. Scum shouts, scum gets a reaction (January 21, 2013 at 7:56 pm)Metallica Wrote: "And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease." Response: What about them? (January 21, 2013 at 7:56 pm)Metallica Wrote: "And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease." amenorrhea..That's when women get a period halt for a long time. Quote:amenorrhea occurs when a woman doesn't have a regular period either because she exercises too much, eats too few calories or both. In order to have regular periods women need to consume a certain number of calories and maintain around 16 percent body fat or more. If a woman has too little body fat the ovaries stop producing estrogen and the woman stops menstruating. When thinking about it, many starvations took place during that era, it is possible that women did witness period halts during that era, which why the verse was revealed to the prophet. What I see obviously is that, the verse speaks about women who got they period stopped for natural reasons due to age, and the same sentence goes to women whom their period didn't stop totally, but it stopped (i.e, their age is not known for period stoppage). But this is my own personal understanding.I don't see anything points to children. Hence the word (Women) in the beginning of the verse doesn't refer to a child. Because god also mentioned the word (wife). We know how accurate the quran is.. If god used "wife", I would understand that this verse might mean children.. But women ? no. Arabic speaks for itself, children are not meant here. (January 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:(January 21, 2013 at 7:56 pm)Metallica Wrote: "And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease." Sorry, I misspelled. What is a woman that doesn't have menstruation? I ask that because my french translation say : "Si vous avez des doutes à propos (de la période d’attente) de vos femmes qui n’espèrent plus avoir de règles, leur délai est de trois mois. De même pour celles qui n’ont pas encore de règles..." that i could translate by : those who have not menstruated yet... For me, that's a very young girl Only dead fish go with the flow * Obey your master
RE: muhammeds purpose
January 21, 2013 at 8:33 pm
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(January 21, 2013 at 8:27 pm)Metallica Wrote: Sorry, I misspelled. What is a woman that doesn't have menstruation? Response: I don't really know what you are asking, but I think I do so I'll give you this answer. In islam, it is permitted to marry, meaning to write a marriage contract even with a child who has not menstruated yet, or is prepubescent. However, it is not permitted to have any sexual relation or even live with them. When they reach maturity and puberty, they can consent to the marriage, or refuse it. So concerning the verse, the verse says that the waiting period of getting together after divorce is the same period as the time of menstruating. Since prepubesents do not menstruate, then the waiting period is three months. Hope that answers your question. Quote:they can consent to the marriage, or refuse it. Bullshit, Abdul. http://www.barenakedislam.com/2009/01/03...-in-islam/ Quote:8-yr old Yemeni girl beaten, raped by her ‘husband.’ RE: muhammeds purpose
January 21, 2013 at 8:48 pm
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(January 21, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:they can consent to the marriage, or refuse it. It's not wise to drop human lack of good education on the situation here. Fish, was a famous western serial killer who ate children after raping them. Should we blame christianity ? or atheism ? or simply the sick twisted human mind ? Children marriage is debatable even in islamic lands, very very debatable, and almost any scholar will have a different point of view. This method you're following, Minimalist, is the method of the hunting down mistakes which aren't related to religion, and bam, stomp it into an argument against that religion. Osama bin laden was angry, great, then islam promotes anger. You met a muslim guy at school, he was stinky. Then islam promotes bad smell. do You know who uses this method, Minimalist ? Muslim extremists, who call the western women "whores" because some western women do porn. A lovely method of debate..proves what the mentality of the debater is. (January 21, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:they can consent to the marriage, or refuse it. Response: That's not the Qur'an or Sunnah. Debunked as usual. |
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