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RE: We've ruined the sea
March 2, 2013 at 11:20 am
(March 2, 2013 at 3:07 am)Aractus Wrote: (March 1, 2013 at 7:31 am)Napoléon Wrote: It's Australia's problem as well as everyone else's. It's not our trash. Take it up with Russia, Japan, China, the USA and Mexico since that's where the trash comes from.
What a pathetic, childish, counter-productive attitude.
"I didn't do it so why should I have to clean it up".
Here's why: It's your fucking planet too.
Regardless who made the mess, it affects everyone on this earth, and there's no way we can solve it by just one or two countries attempting to clean it up. If we are going to do anything constructive then it's the responsibility of everyone to try and fix.
Maybe it can't be fixed, but we should at least try instead of fobbing it off on other people as though it is only their problem.
Oh, and btw, I'm pretty sure the sieve idea was just a joke, unless downbeatplumb corrects me if I'm wrong.
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RE: We've ruined the sea
March 2, 2013 at 11:37 am
Might need an update to The Little Mermaid.
Life is fantastic
Eating the plastic
Under the sea...
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RE: We've ruined the sea
March 2, 2013 at 10:03 pm
(March 2, 2013 at 11:20 am)Napoléon Wrote: (March 2, 2013 at 3:07 am)Aractus Wrote: It's not our trash. Take it up with Russia, Japan, China, the USA and Mexico since that's where the trash comes from. What a pathetic, childish, counter-productive attitude.
"I didn't do it so why should I have to clean it up".
Here's why: It's your fucking planet too. Should we send the AFP to the USA to run law enforcement for them as well? Should we try Chinese cases in Australian courts? Should we send all our school teachers to Mexico to give them education?
Or should we expect them to do their own work?
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RE: We've ruined the sea
March 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2013 at 3:21 pm by Napoléon.)
(March 2, 2013 at 10:03 pm)Aractus Wrote: Should we send the AFP to the USA to run law enforcement for them as well? Should we try Chinese cases in Australian courts? Should we send all our school teachers to Mexico to give them education?
Or should we expect them to do their own work?
Now you're just being a dick.
We're talking about who's problem this whole mess is. And as I've said, it's everyone's.
Now when talking about solutions, sure, it makes sense if everyone co-operates, but don't be so disingenuous as to make out like I'm suggesting Australia should start sending their teachers out to Mexico. Obviously this isn't going to happen nor should it.
All I'm saying is, everyone should be trying to do something to fix the oceans. Sitting there saying only America, Russia etc should deal with it is fucking retarded, why? BECAUSE IT STILL AFFECTS YOU.
If someone takes a dump on your front porch, is your attitude to just leave it there expecting it to magically disappear? *edit* oh wait, you believe in virgin births, don't answer that.
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RE: We've ruined the sea
March 3, 2013 at 5:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2013 at 5:44 pm by naimless.)
I don't think people realise just how much their actions or inactions affect the world.
It's too obvious to me that earth is perfectly balanced in terms of its place within the universe.
There is something fundamentally askew in the way that we are overpopulated and dependent on oils and plastics.
It is a man-made problem and yes, potentially there is a man-made solution in science at the molecular level.
However, I think this is an ethical issue. I don't think we need science for a solution here.
The experiment has already been done. We shouldn't be using these plastics.
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