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Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 6:32 pm
(November 20, 2009 at 6:30 pm)Darwinian Wrote: I'm perfectly me Cool Shades

Essentially... A=A is perfection Tongue Logic is perfect Smile
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 6:37 pm (This post was last modified: November 20, 2009 at 6:37 pm by fr0d0.)
(November 20, 2009 at 6:12 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: Remember, the thought of Christianity was sent to Earth, and we based off perfection of God of what we think about it. Hence perfection is limited to opinions, where another living being could find this perfection really imperfect.

"Even when it is perfect, it is still imperfect."

O'RLY?!? Wink

What if this is like it says in the argument, that this (God) is the ultimate perfection? It has to be logically to be what it is... the source of everything... actus primus/ first cause.
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Quote:actus primus/ first cause.

Oh, don't start all that again I beseech ye......
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 6:41 pm
If the definition of God is perfection... then he is logically perfect. But perfection cannot be imperfect... so I would reject the imperfect texts in which this otherwise perfect God is "defined" Tongue
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Haha nice one Sae. So would I... but wait - I wouldn't reject _any_ LOL Wink
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Perfection all depends on what we are describing Smile

"Is the bible perfect?" "Is the bible perfect in _____ sense?" is the real question to ask Smile
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 20, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I would say perfection depends on your perspective. Without accepting the logic it appears to be many things but what it is to someone who understands. Like a manual for an operating system to someone who has never seen a computer.
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm (This post was last modified: November 21, 2009 at 3:46 pm by Tails Turrosaki.)
(November 20, 2009 at 6:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(November 20, 2009 at 6:12 pm)Tails Turrosaki Wrote: Remember, the thought of Christianity was sent to Earth, and we based off perfection of God of what we think about it. Hence perfection is limited to opinions, where another living being could find this perfection really imperfect.

"Even when it is perfect, it is still imperfect."

O'RLY?!? Wink

What if this is like it says in the argument, that this (God) is the ultimate perfection? It has to be logically to be what it is... the source of everything... actus primus/ first cause.

I'm just going to stop debating here...
(November 20, 2009 at 7:08 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I would say perfection depends on your perspective. Without accepting the logic it appears to be many things but what it is to someone who understands. Like a manual for an operating system to someone who has never seen a computer.

Then you agree that perfection is different amongst different people?
If that is true, then God cannot be perfect. Perfection of different opinions cannot be combined together, somebody might think that creation is imperfect.
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 21, 2009 at 5:43 pm
No. If perfection isn't seen that doesn't mean it isn't there: The computer manual is perfect; but to the person who has never seen a computer it's meaningless and therefore not perfect.
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RE: Why We Are, and Forever Will Be, Imperfect
November 21, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Thats fascinating.

I take this view personally.

1. Perfection and Imperfection are creations of our own minds, and have no value aside from
that very mental construct.

2. Because human beings can never be perfect (conceptually), that is our biggest advantage.
this means we can improve limitlessly, because that goal of completion in perfection can never be reached.

infinit progression. is that not perfect?

haha

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