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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 9:03 am
Instead of attacking their beliefs and trying to convince them that they are incorrect, I would make the case that you have the right to your own beliefs and religion is not something to be forced down people's throats. You could even say something along the lines like if they really had faith god was real, they would have faith that you would be shown the truth.
If that doesn't work, tell them you're born again and fake it until you can move out on your own.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 9:08 am
^FNM I can't believe you are advocating lying to her parents... since when does lying do any good? It only serves to cause problems.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 9:12 am
Aractus. I don't think you understand the precarious position some kids find themselves in due to not having faith in this country. We had one member here thrown out of his house, thankfully landing with his uncle, because he refused to lie and say he was faithful.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 9:38 am
(April 2, 2013 at 9:08 am)Aractus Wrote: ^FNM I can't believe you are advocating lying to her parents... since when does lying do any good? It only serves to cause problems.
Lying does good when the truth causes more harm. Perhaps this is a cultural thing, and you do not understand the ramifications of telling fundamentalist parents that you are an atheist in the U.S. Perhaps you just can't get past the fact that lying isn't a black and white moral issue. If it comes down to the possibility of a child being thrown out of the house or lying and pretending to be a Christian, I will advocate lying every time.
If religious people weren't so goddamn hypersensitive and overzealous about pushing their beliefs on their children, this wouldn't even be an issue.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 10:58 am
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Quote:since when does lying do any good?
Since time immemorial? Whenever things are causing social friction - it's good to have some lube handy.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 11:21 am
Let them preach to you. Tell them, I know you this out of concern for me, I know you are scared that I will go to hell, I know it hurts you, but billions of people on earth are not of this faith as well, and I am just one more person. If being good and open to the light is what is required for God to show me the way per your bible, I can promise you, I will try my best to be a good person and open myself to the light.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm
If they're truly unreasonable, you'll just have to accept it and create barriers. Don't argue with them. Just nod your head at everything they say and keep reminding yourself they're too far gone to be helped. Focus on becoming independent.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 7:15 pm
If your story really is the way you foretell it/portray it up here let's see your examples of what you think the Bible contradicts itself in. And also if you're convinced that evolution is true I would strongly recommend you visit the site: [REDACTED] as it exposes the errancies of the theory of evolution and it's blatant fallibility. There is indeed a God and his name is Jesus Christ. The sooner you abandon any bitterness you have and humble yourself and ask for God to reveal himself to you, the sooner foolishness will leave you.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 7:16 pm
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(April 2, 2013 at 7:15 pm)agscott8 Wrote: If your story really is the way you foretell it/portray it up here let's see your examples of what you think the Bible contradicts itself in. And also if you're convinced that evolution is true I would strongly recommend you visit the site: goctruth.webs.com as it exposes the errancies of the theory of evolution and it's blatant fallibility. There is indeed a God and his name is Jesus Christ. The sooner you abandon any bitterness you have and humble yourself and ask for God to reveal himself to you, the sooner foolishness will leave you.
The site lists The second law of thermodynamics as one of its arguments. They can all be dismissed as they've been debunked many-a time before.
Even if they were all true: demonstrate that the God is yours - Jesus.
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RE: Unaccepting Parents
April 2, 2013 at 7:20 pm
(April 2, 2013 at 7:15 pm)agscott8 Wrote: There is indeed a God and his name is Jesus Christ.
Oh you sound like a fun one!
Why not make an intro thread and tell us all about it dear?
And who is this "Jesus Christ"? I've not heard of him before. Sounds interesting!
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