Golden Ratio In Nature, Quran And Position Of The Kaba

[Joel]

Well, clearly ciko isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Mush less a laser.

[ciko83]

here is really great example how quran is programmed mathematically


Story starts here
Verse 9
أَمْ حَسِبْتَ أَنَّ أَصْحَابَ الْكَهْفِ وَالرَّقِيمِ كَانُوا مِنْ آيَاتِنَا عَجَبًا
إِذْ أَوَى الْفِتْيَةُ إِلَى الْكَهْفِ فَقَالُوا رَبَّنَا آتِنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً وَهَيِّئْ لَنَا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا رَشَدًا
فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَىٰ آذَانِهِمْ فِي الْكَهْفِ سِنِينَ عَدَدًا
ثُمَّ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِنَعْلَمَ أَيُّ الْحِزْبَيْنِ أَحْصَىٰ لِمَا لَبِثُوا أَمَدًا
نَّحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ نَبَأَهُم بِالْحَقِّ إِنَّهُمْ فِتْيَةٌ آمَنُوا بِرَبِّهِمْ وَزِدْنَاهُمْ هُدًى
وَرَبَطْنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ إِذْ قَامُوا فَقَالُوا رَبُّنَا رَبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ لَن نَّدْعُوَ مِن دُونِهِ إِلَٰهًا لَّقَدْ قُلْنَا إِذًا شَطَطًا
هَٰؤُلَاءِ قَوْمُنَا اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ آلِهَةً لَّوْلَا يَأْتُونَ عَلَيْهِم بِسُلْطَانٍ بَيِّنٍ فَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا
وَإِذِ اعْتَزَلْتُمُوهُمْ وَمَا يَعْبُدُونَ إِلَّا اللَّهَ فَأْوُوا إِلَى الْكَهْفِ يَنشُرْ لَكُمْ رَبُّكُم مِّن رَّحْمَتِهِ وَيُهَيِّئْ لَكُم مِّنْ أَمْرِكُم مِّرْفَقًا
وَتَرَى الشَّمْسَ إِذَا طَلَعَت تَّزَاوَرُ عَن كَهْفِهِمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَإِذَا غَرَبَت تَّقْرِضُهُمْ ذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَهُمْ فِي فَجْوَةٍ مِّنْهُ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ مَن يَهْدِ اللَّهُ فَهُوَ الْمُهْتَدِ وَمَن يُضْلِلْ فَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُ وَلِيًّا مُّرْشِدًا
وَتَحْسَبُهُمْ أَيْقَاظًا وَهُمْ رُقُودٌ وَنُقَلِّبُهُمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَكَلْبُهُم بَاسِطٌ ذِرَاعَيْهِ بِالْوَصِيدِ لَوِ اطَّلَعْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَوَلَّيْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِرَارًا وَلَمُلِئْتَ مِنْهُمْ رُعْبًا
وَكَذَٰلِكَ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِيَتَسَاءَلُوا بَيْنَهُمْ قَالَ قَائِلٌ مِّنْهُمْ كَمْ لَبِثْتُمْ قَالُوا لَبِثْنَا يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ يَوْمٍ قَالُوا رَبُّكُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثْتُمْ فَابْعَثُوا أَحَدَكُم بِوَرِقِكُمْ هَٰذِهِ إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ فَلْيَنظُرْ أَيُّهَا أَزْكَىٰ طَعَامًا فَلْيَأْتِكُم بِرِزْقٍ مِّنْهُ وَلْيَتَلَطَّفْ وَلَا يُشْعِرَنَّ بِكُمْ أَحَدًا
إِنَّهُمْ إِن يَظْهَرُوا عَلَيْكُمْ يَرْجُمُوكُمْ أَوْ يُعِيدُوكُمْ فِي مِلَّتِهِمْ وَلَن تُفْلِحُوا إِذًا أَبَدًا
وَكَذَٰلِكَ أَعْثَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ لِيَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَأَنَّ السَّاعَةَ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهَا إِذْ يَتَنَازَعُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ أَمْرَهُمْ فَقَالُوا ابْنُوا عَلَيْهِم بُنْيَانًا رَّبُّهُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِهِمْ قَالَ الَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا عَلَىٰ أَمْرِهِمْ لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم مَّسْجِدًا
سَيَقُولُونَ ثَلَاثَةٌ رَّابِعُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ وَيَقُولُونَ خَمْسَةٌ سَادِسُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ رَجْمًا بِالْغَيْبِ وَيَقُولُونَ سَبْعَةٌ وَثَامِنُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ قُل رَّبِّي أَعْلَمُ بِعِدَّتِهِم مَّا يَعْلَمُهُمْ إِلَّا قَلِيلٌ فَلَا تُمَارِ فِيهِمْ إِلَّا مِرَاءً ظَاهِرًا وَلَا تَسْتَفْتِ فِيهِم مِّنْهُمْ أَحَدًا
وَلَا تَقُولَنَّ لِشَيْءٍ إِنِّي فَاعِلٌ ذَٰلِكَ غَدًا
إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ وَاذْكُر رَّبَّكَ إِذَا نَسِيتَ وَقُلْ عَسَىٰ أَن يَهْدِيَنِ رَبِّي لِأَقْرَبَ مِنْ هَٰذَا رَشَدًا
وَلَبِثُوا فِي كَهْفِهِمْ ثَلَاثَ
Verse 25, at the begining of the word 309th there is 309 word, to cofirm this, copy this arabic text from orginal quran and paste it in Microsoft word, and you will get 309 words

Is this not evidence of programed book , connection between text and the and words. Amazing book indeed

and there is a lot more such beautiful mathematical miracles in quran, if you want i can post to you, and you can also verify it with your own hands so you know that i speak the truth

[Kayenneh]

[Joel]

here is really great example how quran is programmed mathematically


Story starts here
Verse 9
أَمْ حَسِبْتَ أَنَّ أَصْحَابَ الْكَهْفِ وَالرَّقِيمِ كَانُوا مِنْ آيَاتِنَا عَجَبًا
إِذْ أَوَى الْفِتْيَةُ إِلَى الْكَهْفِ فَقَالُوا رَبَّنَا آتِنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً وَهَيِّئْ لَنَا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا رَشَدًا
فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَىٰ آذَانِهِمْ فِي الْكَهْفِ سِنِينَ عَدَدًا
ثُمَّ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِنَعْلَمَ أَيُّ الْحِزْبَيْنِ أَحْصَىٰ لِمَا لَبِثُوا أَمَدًا
نَّحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ نَبَأَهُم بِالْحَقِّ إِنَّهُمْ فِتْيَةٌ آمَنُوا بِرَبِّهِمْ وَزِدْنَاهُمْ هُدًى
وَرَبَطْنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ إِذْ قَامُوا فَقَالُوا رَبُّنَا رَبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ لَن نَّدْعُوَ مِن دُونِهِ إِلَٰهًا لَّقَدْ قُلْنَا إِذًا شَطَطًا
هَٰؤُلَاءِ قَوْمُنَا اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ آلِهَةً لَّوْلَا يَأْتُونَ عَلَيْهِم بِسُلْطَانٍ بَيِّنٍ فَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا
وَإِذِ اعْتَزَلْتُمُوهُمْ وَمَا يَعْبُدُونَ إِلَّا اللَّهَ فَأْوُوا إِلَى الْكَهْفِ يَنشُرْ لَكُمْ رَبُّكُم مِّن رَّحْمَتِهِ وَيُهَيِّئْ لَكُم مِّنْ أَمْرِكُم مِّرْفَقًا
وَتَرَى الشَّمْسَ إِذَا طَلَعَت تَّزَاوَرُ عَن كَهْفِهِمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَإِذَا غَرَبَت تَّقْرِضُهُمْ ذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَهُمْ فِي فَجْوَةٍ مِّنْهُ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ مَن يَهْدِ اللَّهُ فَهُوَ الْمُهْتَدِ وَمَن يُضْلِلْ فَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُ وَلِيًّا مُّرْشِدًا
وَتَحْسَبُهُمْ أَيْقَاظًا وَهُمْ رُقُودٌ وَنُقَلِّبُهُمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَكَلْبُهُم بَاسِطٌ ذِرَاعَيْهِ بِالْوَصِيدِ لَوِ اطَّلَعْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَوَلَّيْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِرَارًا وَلَمُلِئْتَ مِنْهُمْ رُعْبًا
وَكَذَٰلِكَ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِيَتَسَاءَلُوا بَيْنَهُمْ قَالَ قَائِلٌ مِّنْهُمْ كَمْ لَبِثْتُمْ قَالُوا لَبِثْنَا يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ يَوْمٍ قَالُوا رَبُّكُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثْتُمْ فَابْعَثُوا أَحَدَكُم بِوَرِقِكُمْ هَٰذِهِ إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ فَلْيَنظُرْ أَيُّهَا أَزْكَىٰ طَعَامًا فَلْيَأْتِكُم بِرِزْقٍ مِّنْهُ وَلْيَتَلَطَّفْ وَلَا يُشْعِرَنَّ بِكُمْ أَحَدًا
إِنَّهُمْ إِن يَظْهَرُوا عَلَيْكُمْ يَرْجُمُوكُمْ أَوْ يُعِيدُوكُمْ فِي مِلَّتِهِمْ وَلَن تُفْلِحُوا إِذًا أَبَدًا
وَكَذَٰلِكَ أَعْثَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ لِيَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَأَنَّ السَّاعَةَ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهَا إِذْ يَتَنَازَعُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ أَمْرَهُمْ فَقَالُوا ابْنُوا عَلَيْهِم بُنْيَانًا رَّبُّهُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِهِمْ قَالَ الَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا عَلَىٰ أَمْرِهِمْ لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم مَّسْجِدًا
سَيَقُولُونَ ثَلَاثَةٌ رَّابِعُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ وَيَقُولُونَ خَمْسَةٌ سَادِسُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ رَجْمًا بِالْغَيْبِ وَيَقُولُونَ سَبْعَةٌ وَثَامِنُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ قُل رَّبِّي أَعْلَمُ بِعِدَّتِهِم مَّا يَعْلَمُهُمْ إِلَّا قَلِيلٌ فَلَا تُمَارِ فِيهِمْ إِلَّا مِرَاءً ظَاهِرًا وَلَا تَسْتَفْتِ فِيهِم مِّنْهُمْ أَحَدًا
وَلَا تَقُولَنَّ لِشَيْءٍ إِنِّي فَاعِلٌ ذَٰلِكَ غَدًا
إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ وَاذْكُر رَّبَّكَ إِذَا نَسِيتَ وَقُلْ عَسَىٰ أَن يَهْدِيَنِ رَبِّي لِأَقْرَبَ مِنْ هَٰذَا رَشَدًا
وَلَبِثُوا فِي كَهْفِهِمْ ثَلَاثَ
Verse 25, at the begining of the word 309th there is 309 word, to cofirm this, copy this arabic text from orginal quran and paste it in Microsoft word, and you will get 309 words

Is this not evidence of programed book , connection between text and the and words. Amazing book indeed

and there is a lot more such beautiful mathematical miracles in quran, if you want i can post to you, and you can also verify it with your own hands so you know that i speak the truth

Maybe the book was thought out. What does that show? That people could count?
People write in secret code all the time; are they divine creators, too?

[KichigaiNeko]

I am staring think that people are STILL enamoured of the fact that Writing and Mathematics is a nine day wonder and something that should be worshiped.

JUST HOW ILLITERATE ARE THESE PEOPLE?

[Something completely different]

I dont post in German during a exchange because people wont understand it.

So if you want anyone to in any kinf of way understand and participate in a debate with you, and give them the chance to understand, analyse and rebuttle your argument......


Shove your arabic up your ass and start posting in english.

[KichigaiNeko]

Was that arabic? I thought it was Parsi...

[ciko83]

here is really great example how quran is programmed mathematically


Story starts here
Verse 9
أَمْ حَسِبْتَ أَنَّ أَصْحَابَ الْكَهْفِ وَالرَّقِيمِ كَانُوا مِنْ آيَاتِنَا عَجَبًا
إِذْ أَوَى الْفِتْيَةُ إِلَى الْكَهْفِ فَقَالُوا رَبَّنَا آتِنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً وَهَيِّئْ لَنَا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا رَشَدًا
فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَىٰ آذَانِهِمْ فِي الْكَهْفِ سِنِينَ عَدَدًا
ثُمَّ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِنَعْلَمَ أَيُّ الْحِزْبَيْنِ أَحْصَىٰ لِمَا لَبِثُوا أَمَدًا
نَّحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ نَبَأَهُم بِالْحَقِّ إِنَّهُمْ فِتْيَةٌ آمَنُوا بِرَبِّهِمْ وَزِدْنَاهُمْ هُدًى
وَرَبَطْنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ إِذْ قَامُوا فَقَالُوا رَبُّنَا رَبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ لَن نَّدْعُوَ مِن دُونِهِ إِلَٰهًا لَّقَدْ قُلْنَا إِذًا شَطَطًا
هَٰؤُلَاءِ قَوْمُنَا اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ آلِهَةً لَّوْلَا يَأْتُونَ عَلَيْهِم بِسُلْطَانٍ بَيِّنٍ فَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا
وَإِذِ اعْتَزَلْتُمُوهُمْ وَمَا يَعْبُدُونَ إِلَّا اللَّهَ فَأْوُوا إِلَى الْكَهْفِ يَنشُرْ لَكُمْ رَبُّكُم مِّن رَّحْمَتِهِ وَيُهَيِّئْ لَكُم مِّنْ أَمْرِكُم مِّرْفَقًا
وَتَرَى الشَّمْسَ إِذَا طَلَعَت تَّزَاوَرُ عَن كَهْفِهِمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَإِذَا غَرَبَت تَّقْرِضُهُمْ ذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَهُمْ فِي فَجْوَةٍ مِّنْهُ ذَٰلِكَ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ مَن يَهْدِ اللَّهُ فَهُوَ الْمُهْتَدِ وَمَن يُضْلِلْ فَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُ وَلِيًّا مُّرْشِدًا
وَتَحْسَبُهُمْ أَيْقَاظًا وَهُمْ رُقُودٌ وَنُقَلِّبُهُمْ ذَاتَ الْيَمِينِ وَذَاتَ الشِّمَالِ وَكَلْبُهُم بَاسِطٌ ذِرَاعَيْهِ بِالْوَصِيدِ لَوِ اطَّلَعْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَوَلَّيْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِرَارًا وَلَمُلِئْتَ مِنْهُمْ رُعْبًا
وَكَذَٰلِكَ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِيَتَسَاءَلُوا بَيْنَهُمْ قَالَ قَائِلٌ مِّنْهُمْ كَمْ لَبِثْتُمْ قَالُوا لَبِثْنَا يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ يَوْمٍ قَالُوا رَبُّكُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثْتُمْ فَابْعَثُوا أَحَدَكُم بِوَرِقِكُمْ هَٰذِهِ إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ فَلْيَنظُرْ أَيُّهَا أَزْكَىٰ طَعَامًا فَلْيَأْتِكُم بِرِزْقٍ مِّنْهُ وَلْيَتَلَطَّفْ وَلَا يُشْعِرَنَّ بِكُمْ أَحَدًا
إِنَّهُمْ إِن يَظْهَرُوا عَلَيْكُمْ يَرْجُمُوكُمْ أَوْ يُعِيدُوكُمْ فِي مِلَّتِهِمْ وَلَن تُفْلِحُوا إِذًا أَبَدًا
وَكَذَٰلِكَ أَعْثَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ لِيَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَأَنَّ السَّاعَةَ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهَا إِذْ يَتَنَازَعُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ أَمْرَهُمْ فَقَالُوا ابْنُوا عَلَيْهِم بُنْيَانًا رَّبُّهُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِهِمْ قَالَ الَّذِينَ غَلَبُوا عَلَىٰ أَمْرِهِمْ لَنَتَّخِذَنَّ عَلَيْهِم مَّسْجِدًا
سَيَقُولُونَ ثَلَاثَةٌ رَّابِعُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ وَيَقُولُونَ خَمْسَةٌ سَادِسُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ رَجْمًا بِالْغَيْبِ وَيَقُولُونَ سَبْعَةٌ وَثَامِنُهُمْ كَلْبُهُمْ قُل رَّبِّي أَعْلَمُ بِعِدَّتِهِم مَّا يَعْلَمُهُمْ إِلَّا قَلِيلٌ فَلَا تُمَارِ فِيهِمْ إِلَّا مِرَاءً ظَاهِرًا وَلَا تَسْتَفْتِ فِيهِم مِّنْهُمْ أَحَدًا
وَلَا تَقُولَنَّ لِشَيْءٍ إِنِّي فَاعِلٌ ذَٰلِكَ غَدًا
إِلَّا أَن يَشَاءَ اللَّهُ وَاذْكُر رَّبَّكَ إِذَا نَسِيتَ وَقُلْ عَسَىٰ أَن يَهْدِيَنِ رَبِّي لِأَقْرَبَ مِنْ هَٰذَا رَشَدًا
وَلَبِثُوا فِي كَهْفِهِمْ ثَلَاثَ
Verse 25, at the begining of the word 309th there is 309 word, to cofirm this, copy this arabic text from orginal quran and paste it in Microsoft word, and you will get 309 words

Is this not evidence of programed book , connection between text and the and words. Amazing book indeed

and there is a lot more such beautiful mathematical miracles in quran, if you want i can post to you, and you can also verify it with your own hands so you know that i speak the truth

Maybe the book was thought out. What does that show? That people could count?
People write in secret code all the time; are they divine creators, too?

but there is many other such stuff in the quran, do you know what condintions were at that time when quran came down as revelation?

Muhammed could not read nor write. Muslims had nothing to eat, they were tortured and killed, not to talk about tha they had computers, search programs, calculators, not even paper, do you know how they write down reveleation they wrote on animalskin, stone, bones, dried leavs and some on paper.
they did not have time for this, and even if they had how could they make such stuff if they dont have searh programs.

let me give you Another example




ط letter T, repeated 27 times in chapter Naml/Ants wich is 27 chapter of quran


س letter S, repeated 93 times, chapter Naml/Ants has 93 verses
Attention: in the web search it took also one letter from Bismillah in the begning, wich is not part of the chapter, so 94-1=93



or this one





or this

Another numerical miracle

Moon is mentioned 28 times in the Noble Quran, exactly as the number of times and phases it appears to earth!

Also, click here to see the Noble Verses ( قمر mentioned 27 times in 26 Noble Verses) and here (1 time in reference to the crescents).

قمر mentioned 27 times

1 time in reference to the Crescents

The 27 Noble Verses are: 2:189, 6:77, 6:96, 7:54, 10:5, 12:4, 13:2, 14:33, 16:12, 21:33, 22:18, 25:61, 29:61, 31:29, 35:13, 36:39, 36:40, 39:5, 41:37, 54:1, 55:5, 71:16, 74:32, 75:8, 75:9, 84:18, 91:2. Mentioned 28 times in 27 Noble Verses.


From http://www.NASA.gov:

"Document Id: 03_10_04_1
Date Received: 2004-03-10 Date Revised: 2004-06-01 Date Accepted: 2004-06-07
Curriculum Topic Benchmarks: S1.2.5, S1.2.6, S3.2.1, S3.2.2, S3.3.2, S3.3.4, S3.3.6
Grade Level: Upper Elementary [3-5]
Subject Keywords: Earth, Moon, Sun, orbit, rotation
Rating: easy
Modeling the Motions of the Earth, Moon and Sun
By: Glenn Simonelli, Lakeview Elementary School, 6405 S. Main St., Bloomington, IN
47401 e-mail: gsimonel[at]indiana.edu
From: The PUMAS Collection http://pumas.jpl.nasa.gov
© 2004, California Institute of Technology. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Based on U.S. Gov't sponsored research.

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Question: “How long does it take the Moon to go around the Earth? (28 days)
Question: “How long does it take the Moon to rotate? (28 days.)2


Another US-Government Sponsored article:

"Another factor in the variation of tides is based on the orbit of the moon around the earth and the earth around the sun. Both orbits are not circles but ellipses. The distance between the earth and moon can vary by up to 13,000 miles (31,000 km). Since the tidal force increase with decreasing distance then tides will be higher than normal when the moon is at its closest point (called perogee) to the earth, approximately every 28 days.

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The Miracle of Adam & Jesus (Peace be upon them)
As is well known, Jesus Christ (pbuh) is one of the most popular and controversial personalities in history. To some, he is seen as God, to others he is the son of God. Muslims in particular, however, view Jesus Christ as a messenger of God, who was sent to spread God’s word and obey his commands, as did Moses (pbuh), Noah (pbuh), Abraham (pbuh) and those who were sent before him, as well as Muhammad (pbuh) who was sent after him. Muslims have a most honourable regard for Jesus, and belief in him is a condition of Islam.



While it may come as a surprise to some, the Qur’an is in fact a great source for anyone wishing to learn about Jesus Christ! The Qur’an speaks with utmost respect and beauty of this Holy Messenger and his mother Mary.


There is no doubt that there are people who are sceptical about the Qur’an and consider it the written word of Muhammad, and it is the duty of a Muslim to acknowledge and respect all opinions, so long as they can be logically and fairly proven.


There are also people who deny the Prophets and the miracles that came with them. Among those are the miracles of the creation of Adam and Jesus Christ. God's response to those rejecting such miracles is: (Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.) [Al-Imran: 59].

In examining this verse, we notice that God Almighty tells us that Jesus Christ, like Adam (pbuh), was created without a father. Similarly, both were Prophets, and both presented a miracle in the way in which their exemplary morals and behaviour were different from those of ordinary people. This is the Islamic argument; that Jesus cannot be regarded as divine simply because he had no father, because if that holds true, then Adam must also be considered divine as he had neither a father nor a mother.


But the question is: How can this verse really convince someone who simply rejects the Qur’an as the true word of God? After all, a sceptic has every right to be sceptical, but along with this scepticism comes a right upon him to seek proof in order to erase any doubt beyond question! So is there any physical proof for the truth of these words? Is there something, within this verse, that can tangibly prove the proposed similarities between Jesus and Adam? No judgment is made in the words to follow; this is left for the reader to contemplate.


What is interesting is that this connection between Jesus and Adam is not merely confined to the meaning of the verse as explained above. This connection even exists with regards to the various mentions of both Jesus and Adam in the Qur’an.


To explain further, if we look for the word ‘Jesus’ in the Qur’an, we find that it is mentioned 25 times in the Qur’an. Similarly, if we look at the mention of ‘Adam’ in the Qur’an, we find, again, that it is mentioned exactly 25 times!


It is only natural for an atheist, probably even a Muslim, to consider this a coincidence. Therefore, we must look further, and see whether God Almighty has deposited in this verse any consistent numerical symmetry that could destroy any possibility of coincidence.


Now, reflecting on the various verses where Jesus and Adam are mentioned, we find that the previous verse – (Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah is the likeness of Adam) - is the only verse in the Qur’an where both Jesus and Adam were mentioned collectively. In no other verse do the two names meet; this gives the verse a pivotal importance in our discussion.


Furthermore, and amazingly enough, the number of times the word Adam was mentioned from the beginning of the Qur’an up to and including this crucial verse is 7 times, and the number of times Jesus was mentioned from the beginning of the Qur’an up to and including this verse is also 7 times!


That's not all! The 19th occurrence of the word Adam appears in chapter 19 "Mary". At the same time, the 19th occurrence of the word Jesus appears also in chapter 19 "Mary"!


To better illustrate this beautiful consistency, each of the 25 verses mentioning Jesus and Adam are listed below in their order of appearance in the Qur’an:





The above facts demonstrate the accurateness of the Qur’an in its depiction of Jesus and Adam, not only in terms of meaning, but also in terms of context and numerical symmetry. Both prophets are mentioned 25 times, and the sole place where they meet together is at the point where both happen to be mentioned for precisely the seventh time. In addition, anyone who reads the Qur’an will note that this is not a deliberate play on words to simply preserve consistency; meaning and context are never lost throughout the verses of this Holy Book.


Finally, this is simply one out of thousands of similar examples that have been discovered in the Qur’an, and the question is whether all these can come by chance? Or is it in fact God Almighty who preserved this perfect balance? This is left to the reader’s discretion, but regardless the answer, the ever-present challenge of the Qur’an to all of mankind and angels still resonates today: (Say: If the whole of mankind and the Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.) [Al-Isra’: 88].



word Insan/human is mentioned in quran 46 times before chapter Insan start

humans have 46 chromosomes






and Hell/Djahannam is mentioned 77 times, gates of hell acording to quran are 7, and color black is mentioned 7 times in quran, and prophet said that fire in the Hell is black

[Joel]

how could they make such stuff if they dont have searh programs.

Do you actually live on Earth?

ط letter T, repeated 27 times in chapter Naml/Ants wich is 27 chapter of quran

س letter S, repeated 93 times, chapter Naml/Ants has 93 verses

So what? Why pick that letter, and not another? Don't find 'evidence' from a conclusion.

Moon is mentioned 28 times in the Noble Quran, exactly as the number of times and phases it appears to earth!

There are only 8 (EIGHT) phases of the Earth's moon.

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Also, click here to see the Noble Verses ( قمر mentioned 27 times in 26 Noble Verses) and here (1 time in reference to the crescents).

قمر mentioned 27 times

1 time in reference to the Crescents

The 27 Noble Verses are: 2:189, 6:77, 6:96, 7:54, 10:5, 12:4, 13:2, 14:33, 16:12, 21:33, 22:18, 25:61, 29:61, 31:29, 35:13, 36:39, 36:40, 39:5, 41:37, 54:1, 55:5, 71:16, 74:32, 75:8, 75:9, 84:18, 91:2. Mentioned 28 times in 27 Noble Verses.


From http://www.NASA.gov:

"Document Id: 03_10_04_1
Date Received: 2004-03-10 Date Revised: 2004-06-01 Date Accepted: 2004-06-07
Curriculum Topic Benchmarks: S1.2.5, S1.2.6, S3.2.1, S3.2.2, S3.3.2, S3.3.4, S3.3.6
Grade Level: Upper Elementary [3-5]
Subject Keywords: Earth, Moon, Sun, orbit, rotation
Rating: easy
Modeling the Motions of the Earth, Moon and Sun
By: Glenn Simonelli, Lakeview Elementary School, 6405 S. Main St., Bloomington, IN
47401 e-mail: gsimonel[at]indiana.edu
From: The PUMAS Collection http://pumas.jpl.nasa.gov
© 2004, California Institute of Technology. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Based on U.S. Gov't sponsored research.

............

Question: “How long does it take the Moon to go around the Earth? (28 days)
Question: “How long does it take the Moon to rotate? (28 days.)2


Another US-Government Sponsored article:

"Another factor in the variation of tides is based on the orbit of the moon around the earth and the earth around the sun. Both orbits are not circles but ellipses. The distance between the earth and moon can vary by up to 13,000 miles (31,000 km). Since the tidal force increase with decreasing distance then tides will be higher than normal when the moon is at its closest point (called perogee) to the earth, approximately every 28 days.

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So what? This doesn't show anything at all.

Hell/Djahannam is mentioned 77 times, gates of hell acording to quran are 7, and color black is mentioned 7 times in quran, and prophet said that fire in the Hell is black

That's not how Math works, sir.

It is only natural for an atheist, probably even a Muslim, to consider this a coincidence.

I don't even need to consider it coincidence. I concede it may have been thought out: carefully planned. It still shows absolutely nothing.

[Something completely different]

Do you really want to get into the numbers thing? Did you know that the first lethal car accident happened on a Friday the 13th? Or that the worlds most peacefull religion of Islam`s terror attack which took place on 9/11 was exactly the same date on which the battle of Vienna marked the end of the last kaliphate 400 years before?
Numbers and strucktures can be found in almoust everything. The most importent thing to keep in mind about these is: These structures are not there and an inherited property of the things which have those number structures are interpreted by humans into those things!

and by the way, stop posting in arabic!!!!

and another thing:

you lied again! the moon does not need 28 days! but 27 and a half to turn arround the eart!!!!

and moon rotates arround itself in 29 days!!!




I personaly think that you should be reported if you continue to lie!

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one more thing!!!!


post one thread for each "mirecale" which you want to present!!!

Dont spamm a thread with a long ass text.

not because it is against the rules.

but because no one will bother reading you bullshit, if you simply keep producing shit whilest ignoring responses.