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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 6:22 pm
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(May 8, 2013 at 12:10 pm)goodnews Wrote: Your argument is how you perceive your own truth, according your own opinion, of how you understand the narrative, but the actual truth in the narrative, is far greater and loveing than your biassed assumptions will permit you to understand. When it comes down to it, you are no differant than your two Christian freinds as neither of you really want to understand the narrative, as its your own opinions that drive you and not the truth !
To you, the 'truth' is nothing more than anything that makes God look good and righteous. Comrade Napoleon is always right.
(May 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: When parents bring a child into the world are they being evil, they knowingly are exposing the child to all the dangers this world has to offer. Is this loving the child, or an evil act by allowing the child to have to experience all the world can throw at the child.
This is the reasoning you are using with God, so by your reasoning parents are evil by bring a child into this world.
When parents bring a child into the world, they are exposing the child to all the dangers of the world, but how does that make them evil? No parent can change the world so that those evils are not there. No parent makes the world full of evil so as to intentionally endanger their children. goodnews is far too dense to realize it, but he has provided the truth of the entire matter: "God did not need to make them sin, He just created the circumstances needed." Adam and Eve would never have sinned if God did not intentionally make it possible for them to have sinned. It is, therefore, his fault. He knew what would happen and did it anyway. Adam and Eve were victims of a God who quite cruelly tricked them into sinning. It makes Jesus' salvation a diabolically fraudulent gesture. Jesus is 'saving' mankind from a 'crime' nobody alive had anything to do with, and it was as Raven said: the world's first case of entrapment. I cannot imagine what sort of self-delusion is required to analyze this fable and come to the conclusion that God is just and merciful, but there's no doubt that a lot of people manage it. If you think you are a filthy sinner, it's because you inherited that from a God who made sure you did.
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 6:47 pm
"To me the truth is nothing more or less than anything and everything which reveals God to be good and righteous" thanx mate, I tweeked it a bit but the ground work all yours, now all I have to do is work out how to attach it to my profile
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Don't some parents love a retarded child...or a child total paralized in a wheelchair? Love justn't isn't for the perfect..isn't that what Hitler believed? Why would God only make the perfect? The word is "image", not "same".
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 7:20 pm
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(May 8, 2013 at 6:54 pm)ebg Wrote: Don't some parents love a retarded child...or a child total paralized in a wheelchair? Love justn't isn't for the perfect..isn't that what Hitler believed? Why would God only make the perfect? The word is "image", not "same".
Yes, any decent parent would. My wife and I love our children without conditions. What of it? You're just making God look bad. They make one little mistake and get kicked off the family farm for it. What the bloody hell did they do that was any big deal? All they were guilty of was desiring knowledge. And who would not? But disobedience one time led to expulsion from Paradise. That's a bit much, don't you think? Now Adam will have to work hard to survive and Eve will have to go through hell to deliver kids. For something they were tricked into doing by a malevolent, vain, egomaniacal Deity.
But he loves us! 
“To terrify children with the image of hell, to consider women an inferior creation—is that good for the world?”
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 7:40 pm
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Are humans entited to paradise? Is God the Butler?
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Quote:All they were guilty of was desiring knowledge.
The worst crime imaginable to religious shitwits!
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 8:04 pm
Is that your best answer? Can you explain what you mean by "knowledge"?
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Why should we have to explain it? These are your fairy tales.
The explanations of believers are normally quite amusing.
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 8:24 pm
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We?, Like a football team? Or maybe you feel your part of some special group?
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RE: A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God
May 8, 2013 at 8:36 pm
why do you keep insisting that Adam and Eve did not know what they did was wrong? Again They knew what death was. God said if the did X they would die. If/when you have a kid you will note that even if then don't know why they should smear poop on the wall they know enough to know the you will not like it, and for most of them that is enough. One does not have to have a complete understanding of all of the consenquences to know if daddy says no, then daddy means NO!
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