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Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 7:17 pm
I'm just going to keep this question short.
Why do Gays and Lesbians want to get Married instead of just have a civil partnership with the same legal rights? I'm an atheist, I support same-sex marriage because people who are stopping it from being passed are trying to control other people's choices with their own philosophy and that is bullshit.
But why do gay people want to be part of a ceremony from a religion that considers their sexuality a curse. It's the classic case of somehow only believing in part of the bible when you KNOW part of it is bullshit. It comes together, you can't pick and choose and say 'Doesn't God just love everyone' as an excuse. To all you homosexuals out there I say if you want to get married because you consider yourself a Christian, why? If you haven't already consider that the Christian God expects you to change your sexuality.
If you aren't doing that, then you're "going to hell."
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 7:23 pm
He's just going to keep this question short... and he hands out two paragraphs that we then have to parse through.
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Answer is short: Culture.
Marriage has a long and somewhat storied history. For instance... it was for many centuries a right of the nobility and aristocracy, not afforded to the common peasant or serf. What did these castes do? Simply slept together, sometimes with an area-dependent togetherness-ritual, oft sans this. Isn't culture awesome?
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 7:56 pm
If christians are allowed to get tax deductions for their brand of stupidity, then homosexuals ought to be ability to get tax deduction for analogous stupidity as well even if they have no actual intention whatsoever of being stupid.
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm
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I have often wondered why does anybody wants to get married, sure beats me
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Tell me about it......
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 8:13 pm
People don't get married for religious reasons anymore. At least not 'normal' people. Its just whats expected after a while. Yeah its all bullshit but most people don't really think in much depth about what they're doing.
Its the same with christenings. I've been to several in the last couple of months. None of the parents are religious. One of my nieces is going to be christened soon and my sister isn't a believer. Its just what people do.
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 8:18 pm
(May 10, 2013 at 8:13 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Its just what people do.
And that is why most people are idiots.
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Re: RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 8:23 pm
(May 10, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (May 10, 2013 at 8:13 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Its just what people do.
And that is why most people are idiots.
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 9:05 pm
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(May 10, 2013 at 7:17 pm)tehrealfake Wrote: But why do gay people want to be part of a ceremony from a religion that considers their sexuality a curse.
Marriage is a secular concept stolen by religion.
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RE: Why do gays and lesbians WANT to get married?
May 10, 2013 at 9:25 pm
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Currently, the issue of homosexuality in Hinduism is controversial, especially amongst Hindus in countries where homosexuality is generally accepted. Hindu views of homosexuality are varying and diverse, in part because the accepted Hindu religious texts do not explicitly mention homosexuality.
Homosexuality is also a complex matter in Hinduism because of the many types of religious life. In general, "twice-born" Hindus are prohibited from homosexual acts (maithunam pumsi), such as in Manusmrti 11:174, which mentions both men and women.
On the other hand, the famous Kama Sutra states that homosexual sex "is to be engaged in and enjoyed for its own sake as one of the arts." In general, then, the Hindu evaluation of homosexuality depends heavily on the context.
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What does Hinduism have to say about homosexuality?
Not that much, really. None of the sacred Hindu texts, such as the Vedas or the Upanishads, contain a straightforward condemnation of homosexuality akin to that found in Leviticus 18:22. The frankest reference comes in the Laws of Manu (in Sanskrit, the Manusmrti), one of the dharmasastra texts that lists religious laws. There is a lone verse that reads: "A twice-born man who commits an unnatural offence with a male, or has intercourse with a female in a cart drawn by oxen, in water, or in the day-time, shall bathe, dressed in his clothes." (A "twice-born" man is one of a higher caste.) The importance of the Laws of Manu, however, is hotly debated by Hindu theologians; lower-caste Hindus, in particular, question whether the text was written by Brahmins in order to reinforce the social status quo.
But as Indian cinema owners can attest, the religion's lack of textual condemnations doesn't necessarily mean that all Hindus are tolerant of homosexuality. Far from it — homosexuality remains a taboo topic throughout much of India. Many Hindus frown upon gay and lesbian liaisons, in part because of the religion's emphasis on the sanctity of marriage and its strong disapproval of premarital sex. Religious conservatives point out one of marriage's chief functions is to produce progeny so as to perpetuate the family line.
More liberal Hindus counter that the religion wasn't always so intolerant. Scholars who subscribe to this theory point to an incident in the Mahabharata in which the god Krishna dons women's clothing. In addition, the Vedas frequently mention people who belong to a "third sex," which some readers have interpreted as a not-so-veiled reference to gays and lesbians in ancient society. And the erotic Kama Sutra — not a sacred text but an instruction manual written sometime between the first and sixth centuries A.D. — further supports the contention that homosexuality was somewhat acceptable at one point; the book contains a lengthy section on homosexual fellatio.
The bottom line is that, while Hinduism may be construed as being more tolerant toward homosexuality than the three Abrahamic faiths, gays and lesbians still face serious prejudice in India. Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, though rarely enforced, states that homosexual acts are punishable by life in prison.
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