A Literal Genesis Entails An Evil God

[smax]

No problem:


I say god is powerless, and you conceded, not with words, but in action.

At any point that you change your mind, let me know. Until then, your belief in god's power has been proven to be ZERO.

ZERO!

Dippy, the only thing you have proved is your ignorance. Please try again, if you can.

I'd love to try the experiment again. Or, should I say, try it for the first time, being that you were too scared before.

Like I said, let me know. My position is that god is powerless, and you "claim" the opposite. But you have absolutely ZERO faith in your claim. You know, just like me, that god isn't about to do a damn thing.

Christianity, for you, is a merely a facade! You go around here talking about all of these supernatural experiences you share with god, but it's easy to see that it's all bullshit. Because, the moment you are asked to substantiate any of it, you all of sudden come down with a terrible case of practicality.

Even worse, you don't even seem to learn your lesson. You talk all kinds of supernatural nonsense, then you get called out. Then you chicken out, and then the very next day you are talking shit again.

LOL.

[Godscreated]

Dippy, the only thing you have proved is your ignorance. Please try again, if you can.

I'd love to try the experiment again. Or, should I say, try it for the first time, being that you were too scared before.

Like I said, let me know. My position is that god is powerless, and you "claim" the opposite. But you have absolutely ZERO faith in your claim. You know, just like me, that god isn't about to do a damn thing.

Christianity, for you, is a merely a facade! You go around here talking about all of these supernatural experiences you share with god, but it's easy to see that it's all bullshit. Because, the moment you are asked to substantiate any of it, you all of sudden come down with a terrible case of practicality.

Even worse, you don't even seem to learn your lesson. You talk all kinds of supernatural nonsense, then you get called out. Then you chicken out, and then the very next day you are talking shit again.

LOL.

And all this jabbering proves what, only that you like to dodge my question, come on now prove I do not believe in all this stuff as you put it. I put it in bold so you wouldn't miss what I'm referring to.

[smax]

And all this jabbering proves what, only that you like to dodge my question, come on now prove I do not believe in all this stuff as you put it. I put it in bold so you wouldn't miss what I'm referring to.

As far as I am concerned, I met that burden already.

Anythng else?

[goodnews]

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken ot of it? 14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. / these verses are reference to light, and the light source being the sun, the ends of the earth are references to sun rise and sun set, the wicked are the thieves, murderers, prostitutes etc who love darkness and will dissapear at sun rise, it is turned as clay, this is depicting the earth rotating on its axis, and the seal was a cylindrical stamp, when inked and rolled would reveal its self, they stand as a garment, this depicts the earth being clothed in light or darkness. and these being garments can be put on and taken off. ps: the scriptures not only tell of the earth being a circle but go on to say that it is suspended on nothing, but I allready gave those verses on another thread.

[smax]

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken ot of it? 14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. / these verses are reference to light, and the light source being the sun, the ends of the earth are references to sun rise and sun set, the wicked are the thieves, murderers, prostitutes etc who love darkness and will dissapear at sun rise, it is turned as clay, this is depicting the earth rotating on its axis, and the seal was a cylindrical stamp, when inked and rolled would reveal its self, they stand as a garment, this depicts the earth being clothed in light or darkness. and these being garments can be put on and taken off. ps: the scriptures not only tell of the earth being a circle but go on to say that it is suspended on nothing, but I allready gave those verses on another thread.

Nice try at apologetics. Unfortunately, almost all of Job chapter 38 conflicts with your assessment, and the whole thing is a rebuke of Job's assessment that the earth is "suspended over nothing" Job 26:7.

That's why chapter 38 starts out:

1Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

2“Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge?3Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. 4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.

Before I go any further, is it, at all, embarassing that god was wrong and Job was right(ish)?

Just wanted your take on that.

Anyway, the chapter goes on to make several references to a flat earth:

verse 5: 5Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?

verses 8-11: Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness, when I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt’?

Note: see sig.

Verse 13: that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?

Note: Spheres do not have edges. Just saying.

Verse 14: The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment.

Example:



verse 19: What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside?

Answer: a little place science likes to call the otherside of the planet. LOL.

The truth is, the book of Job, specifically chapter 38, would not make canon by the highly selective standards of the ecclesiastical authority. Unfortunately for Christianity, the decision to include it, and several other books that defy science, was made long before science became THE standard.

Oh well, too late.

[Godscreated]

And all this jabbering proves what, only that you like to dodge my question, come on now prove I do not believe in all this stuff as you put it. I put it in bold so you wouldn't miss what I'm referring to.

As far as I am concerned, I met that burden already.

Anythng else?

I bet you're good at dodge ball, you sure know how to dodge questions, though your attempt might be acceptable to your peers, they care not whether or not you show your ignorance. You have not proved the first thing, all you've done is spout opinions based on your hatred toward Christians, what a weak person you are.

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Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken ot of it? 14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. / these verses are reference to light, and the light source being the sun, the ends of the earth are references to sun rise and sun set, the wicked are the thieves, murderers, prostitutes etc who love darkness and will dissapear at sun rise, it is turned as clay, this is depicting the earth rotating on its axis, and the seal was a cylindrical stamp, when inked and rolled would reveal its self, they stand as a garment, this depicts the earth being clothed in light or darkness. and these being garments can be put on and taken off. ps: the scriptures not only tell of the earth being a circle but go on to say that it is suspended on nothing, but I already gave those verses on another thread.

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Nice try at apologetics. Unfortunately, almost all of Job chapter 38 conflicts with your assessment, and the whole thing is a rebuke of Job's assessment that the earth is "suspended over nothing" Job 26:7.

That's why chapter 38 starts out:

1Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

2“Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge?3Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. 4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.

Before I go any further, is it, at all, embarassing that god was wrong and Job was right(ish)?

Just wanted your take on that.

Anyway, the chapter goes on to make several references to a flat earth:

verse 5: 5Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?

verses 8-11: Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness, when I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt’?

Note: see sig.

Verse 13: that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?

Note: Spheres do not have edges. Just saying.

Verse 14: The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment.

Example:



verse 19: What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside?

Answer: a little place science likes to call the otherside of the planet. LOL.

The truth is, the book of Job, specifically chapter 38, would not make canon by the highly selective standards of the ecclesiastical authority. Unfortunately for Christianity, the decision to include it, and several other books that defy science, was made long before science became THE standard.

Oh well, too late.

That is such a weak argument I'm surprised it didn't fall apart right on your screen, weak man weak.

[smax]

That is such a weak argument I'm surprised it didn't fall apart right on your screen, weak man weak.

Coming from a man who offered nothing compelling to refute it, I'll take that as a complement.

[Godscreated]

That is such a weak argument I'm surprised it didn't fall apart right on your screen, weak man weak.

Coming from a man who offered nothing compelling to refute it, I'll take that as a complement.

Still dodging my question I see, what's up with that, and refuting that bunch of nothing, why should I waste my time.

[Cyberman]

Because you enjoy the attention?

[Minimalist]

Prove the bold.

I think he's trying to say that no one could be that stupid. But I know you better, G-C and he is wrong.