Locked in the dogma

[little_monkey]

Have you entertained the possibility that you are reading the data in an incorrect way in this continuation?

An incorrect way does not give you good feeling.

Every year there are dozens of people who claim they have proven Einstein wrong. I can only imagine the euphoria rushing through their brain when they have suddenly pounced upon that realization. Yet, all of them keep turning out to be false.

[Whateverist]

Never mind, next time i will ask Whateverist how he come up with his conclusion in a nice manner although it may be a bit difficult to address a point based on non-experience on the subject. Ciao

Ahh, I see the problem now. You are a solipsist? There are no other minds in the universe but your own, so no one else has any experience. You, however, from your vast acquaintance with the infinite have had all experience and are therefore in a position to explain the relative merits of every possible experience.

I would find that much too stifling a perspective to live in. For me a world inhabited by peers is ever so much more satisfying. So even if I'm fooling myself and everyone around me is an automaton put here by the infinite for my amusement, I think I would still choose to treat them as peers. But hey, it's your infinite. You go ahead and decide who's in and who's out.

[Little Rik]

Never mind, next time i will ask Whateverist how he come up with his conclusion in a nice manner although it may be a bit difficult to address a point based on non-experience on the subject. Ciao

Ahh, I see the problem now. You are a solipsist? There are no other minds in the universe but your own, so no one else has any experience. You, however, from your vast acquaintance with the infinite have had all experience and are therefore in a position to explain the relative merits of every possible experience.

I would find that much too stifling a perspective to live in. For me a world inhabited by peers is ever so much more satisfying. So even if I'm fooling myself and everyone around me is an automaton put here by the infinite for my amusement, I think I would still choose to treat them as peers. But hey, it's your infinite. You go ahead and decide who's in and who's out.

You know the iceberg?
People are often confused into believing that the block of ice that they see on the surface is the only one.
But as we know under the water there is even a bigger block of ice.
Consciousness work in the same manner.
People think that what they can perceive with their mind is the only truth.
Unfortunately for them it does not work like this.
If you want to perceive what lies within then you must practice the older science existing which is called INTUITIVE SCIENCE.
Like every other study it involve a lot of hard work but as every other accomplish effort you will find the proper rewards.
But as i do not pretend to judge what i do not know also you have no right to judge what you do not know.
You can say that your guessing is such and such but to say that spirituality work in such and such a way when you never practice it then you create a dogma.

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An incorrect way does not give you good feeling.

Every year there are dozens of people who claim they have proven Einstein wrong. I can only imagine the euphoria rushing through their brain when they have suddenly pounced upon that realization. Yet, all of them keep turning out to be false.

False EUPHORIA does not last long.
Only when the EUPHORIA last that is a sign that the system works.

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The darker it is the more primitive it is, the more brilliant it is the more subtle and pure it is.
What is primitive and what is pure?
When the pure spirit transform itself into mind, space, air, light, water and matter it is getting primitive, when these things go back to the spirit then we have the progress and purity or spirituality are the results so when the aura is more brilliant this is a sign that we are more spiritual beings.

But how do you know that auras mean something like that? You explained how you believe it works, but how did you deduce that?

Even in the old times saints were depicted with the aureola on the head.
You take a rapist or a murderer and you will find a black shade around his head.
Just try to think why is that?

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Heading into "stronso" territory enrico.

You can't be much of a business man... your comments are more liken to a psychopath. I would suggest you calm down and not let anyone upset you. Such is the mind set of a true leader/ business man.

I will put that PSYCHOPATH bead in the rosary of desperation (not mine).
Anyway coming back to your point that make me think at the masses that centuries ago were ridicule the scientists that were saying that the earth is not flat and is not the center of the universe.
As i was saying in previous post too many people are affected by the iceberg sydrome.
They see the top and come to the conclusion that that is the only ice existing.
This material dimension is just a piece of dust compared to what really exist but this small piece of dust in the mind of too many people is so big that occupy all their mind.

[little_monkey]

Every year there are dozens of people who claim they have proven Einstein wrong. I can only imagine the euphoria rushing through their brain when they have suddenly pounced upon that realization. Yet, all of them keep turning out to be false.

False EUPHORIA does not last long.
Only when the EUPHORIA last that is a sign that the system works.

Wow, you're a permanent crackpot.

Must be hard to be you.

[Faith No More]

Enrico, have you heard of the placebo effect, and if so, how have you proven to yourself that you have not fallen victim to it?

[Whateverist]

But as i do not pretend to judge what i do not know also you have no right to judge what you do not know.
You can say that your guessing is such and such but to say that spirituality work in such and such a way when you never practice it then you create a dogma.

From wikipedia:

Dogma is a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief system, ...

It would seem that it is you who are making the claim to be an incontrovertible authority on what is true regarding spirituality. As such, it is what you say that represents a dogma. You see the difference?

[Cyberman]

You know the iceberg?
People are often confused into believing that the block of ice that they see on the surface is the only one.
But as we know under the water there is even a bigger block of ice.

I believe it was Shakespeare, in The Two Ladies And One Flagon Of Verona, who first coined the phrase "No Shit, Sherlock". I would contend that the only people likely to be confused about the true nature of icebergs are children, and particularly young and ill-educated children at that. If such is indeed your intended audience, go for it champ. I doubt you're going to get much traction round here though.

[Little Rik]

Enrico, have you heard of the placebo effect, and if so, how have you proven to yourself that you have not fallen victim to it?

Placebo effect does not work on everybody while intuition science work on everybody who make the effort to bring the spiritual gold to the surface.
The difference between yoga and a false pill or remedy is that the first involve hard work while the latter does not.
I have seen a lot of people giving up the real yoga because they find very difficult in carrying it on but i never heard anyone who tried to say that it does not work.

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But as i do not pretend to judge what i do not know also you have no right to judge what you do not know.
You can say that your guessing is such and such but to say that spirituality work in such and such a way when you never practice it then you create a dogma.

From wikipedia:

Dogma is a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. It serves as part of the primary basis of an ideology or belief system, ...

It would seem that it is you who are making the claim to be an incontrovertible authority on what is true regarding spirituality. As such, it is what you say that represents a dogma. You see the difference?

So according to your statement also anyone who practiced any activity for years and years and say that they know how the system works are also a bunch of idiots?
In other words all these experience people should say..........I DO KNOW NOTHING....I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE ON THE SUBJECT..........IN MY LIFE I NEVER LEARN ANYTHING.....SO PLEASE GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING.
Where the people who are interested in knowing should go then?
Maybe they should go to someone under the effect of the placebo effect or the illusion?
You see what happen when we draw quick conclusions without thinking properly?

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You know the iceberg?
People are often confused into believing that the block of ice that they see on the surface is the only one.
But as we know under the water there is even a bigger block of ice.

I believe it was Shakespeare, in The Two Ladies And One Flagon Of Verona, who first coined the phrase "No Shit, Sherlock". I would contend that the only people likely to be confused about the true nature of icebergs are children, and particularly young and ill-educated children at that. If such is indeed your intended audience, go for it champ. I doubt you're going to get much traction round here though.

It does not really matter if you are adult.
As far as you concentrate all your attention on the material-physical worlds then there is no way that you can have any feeling for the subtle.
When your consciousness has decided that there is nothing else then that is it.
The dogma will prevent you from exit the corral in which you have lock your consciousness in.

[Angrboda]

[Cyberman]

Now there's a nice Big reference.