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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 4, 2013 at 10:30 am
(August 4, 2013 at 7:00 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Where has my post gone?
You opened with three quotes, then closed only one of them, and then started another quote.
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Dude, there is no point or coherence to anything you have said in this article. I would like to a see an example of any atheist who has professed to believe in evolution out of "blind faith". This statement in itself is a direct contradiction, our movement is based on the scientific relationship we have which proves evolution. There is no "faith" needed.
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Add two more close quotes after that one close quote you have in and your post should be visible I think.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 4, 2013 at 12:01 pm
(This post was last modified: August 4, 2013 at 12:01 pm by Kayenneh.)
(August 4, 2013 at 6:07 am)enrico Wrote: The problem with some people is that they lower their consciousness to the level of cockroach so along their calvary they will drop excrements all over the place.
They just can't help themselves.
*pats Enrico on the head*
There, there. Don't be so hard on yourself. Even though you're deluded as fuck, there's no need to call yourself a cockroach.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am
Chas Wrote:What do you mean "someone born as a worm"?
There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
Without consciousness you are a robot but a worm is not a robot so this consciousness show that he is someone.
Quote:Please read a science book. Please.
Does a science book say that a worm is a robot? 
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 9:34 am
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(August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote: There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
By this ill-informed logic, there must be a consciousness in certain plants too.
rico Wrote:Quote:Please read a science book. Please.
Does a science book say that a worm is a robot?
I suppose you'll never know until you read one.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 9:35 am
(August 4, 2013 at 12:01 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (August 4, 2013 at 6:07 am)enrico Wrote: The problem with some people is that they lower their consciousness to the level of cockroach so along their calvary they will drop excrements all over the place.
They just can't help themselves.
*pats Enrico on the head*
There, there. Don't be so hard on yourself. Even though you're deluded as fuck, there's no need to call yourself a cockroach.
Can't you be a bit original instead of repeating other people words?
C'on put a bit of effort so i will give you some kudos. 
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 9:38 am
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2013 at 9:39 am by Chas.)
(August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote: Chas Wrote:What do you mean "someone born as a worm"?
There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
Without consciousness you are a robot but a worm is not a robot so this consciousness show that he is someone.
Define 'consciousness'. A worm has a nervous system and responds to environmental stimuli.
Quote:Quote:Please read a science book. Please.
Does a science book say that a worm is a robot?
Define 'robot'. But, yes, a worm is effectively a robot.
Your post implied that some sort of being chose to be born one way or another.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 9:51 am
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2013 at 10:08 am by Little Rik.)
(August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote: There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
BadWriterSparty Wrote:By this ill-informed logic, there must be a consciousness in certain plants too.
Sure there is otherwise the climbers wouldn't bother to move around looking for better condition to prosper.
enrico Wrote:Does a science book say that a worm is a robot?
BadWriterSparty Wrote:I suppose you'll never know until you read one.
You show me that the science say that worms are robot and i will make you pope.
Chas Wrote:Define 'consciousness'. A worm has a nervous system and responds to environmental stimuli.
Sorry but a nervous system is not enough to make a worm decide what to eat or where to go in his search for the right place to live.
Decision making is the key to physical survival and this decision is not driven by a nervous system.
Behind a nervous system there is always a consciousness otherwise the creature wouldn't have any feelings.
I already show a link in which once you are able to disconnect the consciousness from the body you do not feel any pain.
As far as the worm does not like to be crushed and mashed then it means that consciousness is there.
http://jamie-monk.blogspot.com.au/2011/0...urite.html
Quote:Define 'robot'. But, yes, a worm is effectively a robot.
No, is not as explain above.
Quote:Your post implied that some sort of being chose to be born one way or another.
No, i never said that.
Nobody choose to go through the trouble of creation and evolution.
Everybody consciousness would like to be home where they belong. 
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 10:13 am
(August 5, 2013 at 9:51 am)enrico Wrote: Sure there is otherwise the climbers wouldn't bother to move around looking for better condition to prosper.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 10:33 am
Oh dear. This went to the bad place.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 5, 2013 at 11:01 am
(August 5, 2013 at 9:51 am)enrico Wrote: (August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote: There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
BadWriterSparty Wrote:By this ill-informed logic, there must be a consciousness in certain plants too.
Sure there is otherwise the climbers wouldn't bother to move around looking for better condition to prosper.
enrico Wrote:Does a science book say that a worm is a robot?
BadWriterSparty Wrote:I suppose you'll never know until you read one.
You show me that the science say that worms are robot and i will make you pope.
Chas Wrote:Define 'consciousness'. A worm has a nervous system and responds to environmental stimuli.
Sorry but a nervous system is not enough to make a worm decide what to eat or where to go in his search for the right place to live.
Decision making is the key to physical survival and this decision is not driven by a nervous system.
Behind a nervous system there is always a consciousness otherwise the creature wouldn't have any feelings.
I already show a link in which once you are able to disconnect the consciousness from the body you do not feel any pain.
As far as the worm does not like to be crushed and mashed then it means that consciousness is there.
http://jamie-monk.blogspot.com.au/2011/0...urite.html
Quote:Define 'robot'. But, yes, a worm is effectively a robot.
No, is not as explain above.
Quote:Your post implied that some sort of being chose to be born one way or another.
No, i never said that.
Nobody choose to go through the trouble of creation and evolution.
Everybody consciousness would like to be home where they belong.
Your definition of consciousness does not correspond with reality.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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