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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 4:13 pm
I do not agree in the slightest that death is beautiful. I love being alive. I love enjoying new experiences and learning new things. I think it really sucks that there's an expiration date for all of that. Should there come some kind of technological innovations that safely allow for indefinite life, I'll be one of the first trying to get on board. Death sucks.
My dislike of the idea of being dead doesn't delude me into believing in an afterlife or anything.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Death is inevitable, but I enjoy my existence. For this reason I will continue to do what is within my power to avoid death, until the law of diminishing returns makes it a hopeless venture.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 4:54 pm
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 6:38 pm
(November 1, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Pretzel Logic Wrote: (November 1, 2013 at 3:19 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Mind if I ask if you've lost anyone close?
no,but when the time will come,it's better to be prepared. Even if you will shed 10000 tears it wont bring that person back,it's better to accept death for what it is and when it happens to just move on.
Well then.
I don't think mourning is not accepting death, if you're denying death why would you be sad? Accepting something, being sad about something, moving on, are all different things. There seems to be this delusion that moving on means you no longer feel the same way about some things. I don't even know where this idea of moving on comes from.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 7:31 pm
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(November 1, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Pretzel Logic Wrote: (November 1, 2013 at 3:19 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Mind if I ask if you've lost anyone close?
no,but when the time will come,it's better to be prepared. Even if you will shed 10000 tears it wont bring that person back,it's better to accept death for what it is and when it happens to just move on.
Perhaps easier said than done. I'm not sure that anyone is truly prepared for it until it happens.
I've lost more people in my life than I would care to count, from all types of causes. Natural. Accidents. Suicide. Homicide. Warfare. I've watched people I care about take their last breath. I've been justifiably in jeopardy of losing my life twice - the first time, I was terrified, the most recent, I accepted whatever fate brought as the outcome was entirely out of my control.
(Despite the manner in which I faced that most recent situation, I can also say that after-the-fact, the experience has had a profound impact on my life. That was ten months ago tomorrow, and there are still aspects of the experience I am still processing. Things affect us in ways that we cannot always appreciate until we experience them.)
I couldn't say how it might be for you, but I can say for me - the experience is subjective and situational.
To answer your original question - I do not fear my own death. I'd rather focus on living during whatever time I have remaining.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Moving on, to me, is not about changing how you think of something, but simply getting to the point where it no longer overwhelms you, where's not one of the huge things you have to deal with every day.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 8:12 pm
(November 1, 2013 at 6:38 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I don't even know where this idea of moving on comes from.
In my line of work it usually refers to developing new neural pathways. There is generally no harm in feeling sad for ten or more years after the loss of a loved one. The danger can be when you get stuck in the neurochemical concoction your brain creates in reaction to the initial loss and possible trauma. Not 'moving on' from a significant 'loss' through cognitive or other means can lead to the development of real mental illnesses - generally mild to severe depression.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 9:03 pm
(November 1, 2013 at 8:12 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 1, 2013 at 6:38 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I don't even know where this idea of moving on comes from.
In my line of work it usually refers to developing new neural pathways. There is generally no harm in feeling sad for ten or more years after the loss of a loved one. The danger can be when you get stuck in the neurochemical concoction your brain creates in reaction to the initial loss and possible trauma. Not 'moving on' from a significant 'loss' through cognitive or other means can lead to the development of real mental illnesses - generally mild to severe depression.
I agree, I think the OP was suggesting the practical approach was to not feel sad about it and just "move on".
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 9:07 pm
(November 1, 2013 at 2:34 pm)Pretzel Logic Wrote: (November 1, 2013 at 2:31 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't fear death.
I fear dying.
Why? It must be pretty sweet when someone looks at your dying eyes and they see all the regrets,mistakes and the pain you went through.
Seeing someone else's pain as their last breath leaves them does not sound "sweet" to me. My grandmother was a devout christian her entire life (so devout, we weren't even allowed to say the word sex in here house), and even she was terrified of her own death. Watching her die was extremely heart breaking for us, because there was nothing we could do to take away her fear. Billions upon billions of people die alone with great regret. I think that taking joy in that moment makes you a bit of psycho. Well, either that or a child who has not yet experienced anything of life.
Quote:Yea but when we die all our memories die with us so when you are dead you won't remember the good or tough times you had in life,nor the things you did,...
Even if this is true it has nothing to do with being afraid of dying, and stating this fact does NOTHING to quell the natural desire to want to live for the rest of us who don't share your immature ideas.
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RE: I think death is beautiful.
November 1, 2013 at 9:37 pm
I think this guy has it nailed, though.
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