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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:11 am
Actual lol.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:18 am
Quote:O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women and fear Allah through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allah is Ever an All-Watcher over you.
What about this verse?
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:20 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2013 at 11:20 am by Nineteen.)
(December 2, 2013 at 10:46 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: So if the Qu'ran does not contradict human evolution, but you don't believe evolution, what do you believe?
Still you ask the same question .
So you ask me "Do you know if Alice went to the school ?"
and I say " Opss ! she just said I'm going to out , maybe she went , maybe not , I dont know"
and you say me "What are you trying to say ? how you cant know ? are you sure what you talkin about ? make a decision , she went or not ?"
Such a question .
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:25 am
(December 2, 2013 at 11:20 am)Nineteen Wrote: (December 2, 2013 at 10:46 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: So if the Qu'ran does not contradict human evolution, but you don't believe evolution, what do you believe?
Still you ask the same question .
So you ask me "Do you know if Alice went to the school ?"
and I say " Opss ! she just said I'm going to out , maybe she went , maybe not , I dont know"
and you say me "What are you trying to say ? how you cant know ? are you sure what you talkin about ? make a decision , she went or not ?"
Such a question . Such a reply.
Sadly, while all answers are replies, not all replies are answers.
I'll make it easy. Do you believe humans evolved from other lifeforms.
A. YES
B. NO
C. I DONT KNOW.
or D, I want to have my cake and eat it so I'll say that the qua an is compatible with evolution, but infer that evolution is not actually how humans were made, thus giving the impression of being progressive whilst still promoting the old belief that humans were created as are, from scratch, by Allah.
Nice and easy multi choice.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:26 am
(December 2, 2013 at 9:47 am)Nineteen Wrote: Islam does not contradict with evolution , and also "human" evolution is not exactly a proven reality. I want to believe in evo but scientist still have not enough sufficient information to explain it .
You obliviously have not read much literature in term of biology.
Here are exhibits at a nice museum!:
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanen...7AodV2EADQ
Here are some works from a lovely University:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:27 am
(December 2, 2013 at 11:25 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (December 2, 2013 at 11:20 am)Nineteen Wrote: Still you ask the same question .
So you ask me "Do you know if Alice went to the school ?"
and I say " Opss ! she just said I'm going to out , maybe she went , maybe not , I dont know"
and you say me "What are you trying to say ? how you cant know ? are you sure what you talkin about ? make a decision , she went or not ?"
Such a question . Such a reply.
Sadly, while all answers are replies, not all replies are answers.
I'll make it easy. Do you believe humans evolved from other lifeforms.
A. YES
B. NO
C. I DONT KNOW.
or D, I want to have my cake and eat it so I'll say that the qua an is compatible with evolution, but infer that evolution is not actually how humans were made, thus giving the impression of being progressive whilst still promoting the old belief that humans were created as are, from scratch, by Allah.
Nice and easy multi choice.
I think what she is saying is that she doesn't know because the quran isn't clear about it.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:31 am
(December 2, 2013 at 11:27 am)paulpablo Wrote: (December 2, 2013 at 11:25 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Such a reply.
Sadly, while all answers are replies, not all replies are answers.
I'll make it easy. Do you believe humans evolved from other lifeforms.
A. YES
B. NO
C. I DONT KNOW.
or D, I want to have my cake and eat it so I'll say that the qua an is compatible with evolution, but infer that evolution is not actually how humans were made, thus giving the impression of being progressive whilst still promoting the old belief that humans were created as are, from scratch, by Allah.
Nice and easy multi choice.
I think what she is saying is that she doesn't know because the quran isn't clear about it. Oh OK.
Could have just said that!
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:33 am
Quote:Sahih International
And of His signs is that He created you from dust; then, suddenly you were human beings dispersing [throughout the earth].
Muhsin Khan
And among His Signs is this, that He created you (Adam) from dust, and then [Hawwa' (Eve) from Adam's rib, and then his offspring from the semen, and], - behold you are human beings scattered!
Pickthall
And of His signs is this: He created you of dust, and behold you human beings, ranging widely!
Yusuf Ali
Among His Signs in this, that He created you from dust; and then,- behold, ye are men scattered (far and wide)!
There are other verses which make me think the quran doesn't support evolution, like this one.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:38 am
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(December 2, 2013 at 11:33 am)paulpablo Wrote: There are other verses which make me think the quran doesn't support evolution, like this one.
Islam is not hadiths (stories)
Islam is Quran .
Okay sorry , this is a verse , number 30:20 .
Verse does not use such an expression "suddenly you became a human" .
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RE: Evolution and Islam
December 2, 2013 at 11:40 am
(December 2, 2013 at 11:38 am)Nineteen Wrote: (December 2, 2013 at 11:33 am)paulpablo Wrote: There are other verses which make me think the quran doesn't support evolution, like this one.
Islam is not hadiths (stories)
Islam is Quran .
What i typed was from the quran
30:20 in the quran.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
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