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Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
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Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
July 17, 2010 at 2:25 pm
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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
July 17, 2010 at 2:29 pm



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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
July 19, 2010 at 2:16 pm
(July 17, 2010 at 2:29 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Turkey is usually held up as the standard secular/muslim state, seems to be a lot better than most of the others but I stand to be corrected.
This has been true in the past but recently the more religious elements of Islam seem to be increasing in power.

Regarding the origianl question, the best thing would be for all the Muslims to convert to Christianity, but I know that isn't going to happen.
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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
July 19, 2010 at 2:32 pm
I thought Turkey still banned Richard Dawkins' website? Doesn't seem very secular to me...
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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
July 19, 2010 at 2:41 pm (This post was last modified: July 19, 2010 at 3:09 pm by annatar.)
(July 19, 2010 at 2:16 pm)theophilus Wrote: This has been true in the past but recently the more religious elements of Islam seem to be increasing in power.

Yes that is true but despite that, we have a secular republic no one even dare to change. And I hope we will get rid of them at next elections..
(July 19, 2010 at 2:16 pm)theophilus Wrote: Regarding the origianl question, the best thing would be for all the Muslims to convert to Christianity, but I know that isn't going to happen.
its just like changing their leash.. And your religion just as violent as islam. Do you think you dont have suicide bombers becouse christianity said so? NO sir, its just becouse your life standards are way better than theirs.. put bunch of christian same situation as Afghanistan or Iraq. They will start witch hunting in no time..

Quote:I thought Turkey still banned Richard Dawkins' website? Doesn't seem very secular to me...
Yes I have no excuse for our shithead government's actions. But know this Majority in turkey against such censorship. And that website banned becouse that dick, harun yahya sued that website like he did any other website which contains posts that insults him..
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July 19, 2010 at 9:47 pm (This post was last modified: July 19, 2010 at 10:10 pm by Minimalist.)
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December 18, 2019 at 3:57 pm (This post was last modified: December 18, 2019 at 4:00 pm by WinterHold.)
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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
December 18, 2019 at 9:56 pm
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.

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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
December 19, 2019 at 1:31 am
(July 19, 2010 at 2:16 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(July 17, 2010 at 2:29 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Turkey is usually held up as the standard secular/muslim state, seems to be a lot better than most of the others but I stand to be corrected.
This has been true in the past

Didn't Turks lock their wives in the house/ apartment and then never let them step outside until quite recently and perhaps still do it today?

For instance, there's a 1986 German film called "40 Quadratmeter Deutschland" about that practice.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Liberal Movement in Islam or Western Islam, the fight against islamic extremism
December 19, 2019 at 3:13 am
What makes Turkey remearkable is that is was founded as a secular state, as a successor to the Osman Empire, which was deeply religious.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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