If a woman or man refuses to have sex than that agreement of marriage turns into a disagreement in which case they should not even be together. There's no justifcation for forcing any person to have sex. That is clear
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Atheists condone and condemn rape
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(December 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Sleepy Wrote: One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything. Your trolling or kidding, aren't you? Firstly, atheism is simply an assertion that there is insufficient evidence to believe in a personal god. Apart from that atheism makes no ethical arguments for or against rape or anything else, for that matter. Therefore your post is non-sensical. Secondly, it's a bit rich for this to come from someone who claims to be a follower of Islam. Because, the founder of islam was by most definitions a paedophile, and his actions would constitute statutory rape in most states and countries: Sahih Muslim 8:3311 Wrote:'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (December 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: 'It's wrong because it's traumatic'? And what's wrong with it being traumatic? What does traumatic events have to do with natural selection, spreading your genes, increasing your pleasure. Who cares about anybody else. Spread your genes and only do what you want. Why do you keep talking about all this 'spreading about your genes' shit? We don't live in a Darwinian world any more, we are above the animals in that sense. The rules of natural selection, no longer apply to us. If they did, we would be killing the weak and the sick in droves to prevent them from reproducing and spreading their faulty genes. In reality, we don't do that, we do all we can to protect the weak and the sick. Stop talking about evolution and natural selection, you clearly don't understand it. Raping someone is a traumatic event. It is unpleasant for the person getting raped. Why put a person through pain when its not necessary? Unless you are a horrible person. (December 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Second how is it 'wrong?" So you're saying there is absolutes??? That is fundamentally against atheism as wrong and right are determined by individuals. If you actually bothered to read my post earlier on in this thread, you would know my position Try again
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Why is rape 'wrong' though?
Keep avoiding and living in denial, contradiction, confusion. Go on (December 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: If a woman or man refuses to have sex than that agreement of marriage turns into a disagreement in which case they should not even be together. There's no justifcation for forcing any person to have sex. That is clear Marriage is not an agreement to have sex. Its an agreement to live together. Did you know there are such things as open marriages? Polygamous marriages?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
ENGLISH LAW
"But the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract." The girl from london, check yourself haha (December 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Why is rape 'wrong' though?Because pleasure is preferable to pain. Hurting someone on purpose, for no reason, is wrong. (December 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Keep avoiding and living in denial, contradiction, confusion. Please tell me, what am I avoiding? How am I living in denial? What contradictions? What confusion?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm by Jacob(smooth).)
(December 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Why is rape 'wrong' though? Ummm, he already did. Twice. At least read the answer before repeating the question. Edit, 3 times now.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code (December 7, 2013 at 5:46 pm)Sleepy Wrote: ENGLISH LAW Liar
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 5:49 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 5:50 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(December 7, 2013 at 5:46 pm)Sleepy Wrote: ENGLISH LAW FALSE. Moron: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/1 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/3 Love atheistforums.org? Consider becoming a patreon and helping towards our server costs.
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