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Atheists condone and condemn rape
#61
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Atheists say that Death Penalty is murder, but they condone abortion.

Are you a gynecologist? If not, then that is none of your business.
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#62
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 9:17 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote:
(December 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Atheists say that Death Penalty is murder, but they condone abortion.

Are you a gynecologist? If not, then that is none of your business.

What does being an OB/GYN have to do with anything at all?

(December 7, 2013 at 9:14 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: You can't murder someone who was never born, genius.

Then why did they charge the Manson family for infanticide when they killed that woman who was pregnant? It's no different.
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#63
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Atheists say that Death Penalty is murder, but they condone abortion.
Way to pigeonhole all atheists.

I condone abortion. I would condone the death penalty if there was any way to know we were applying it without error. As we clearly have and continue to occasionally execute innocent people, I have grave reservations about the death penalty.

Quite a few atheists here disagree with me, on both counts.
Quote:I believe that all life is sacred, so I condone both ideas as a type of murder.
If there's one thing that is absolutely clear, it's that life isn't sacred. It's cheap- everywhere but in my socioeconomic class in the Western world.

Is that sad? Yes. But these first-world issues you're quibbling over are pretty fucking pale in comparison to the misery, pain, and death that happen in the poverty-stricken, war-torn shitholes of the world. If you think all life is so sacred, I'm sure you're on top of that.
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#64
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm)Zazzy Wrote:
(December 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Atheists say that Death Penalty is murder, but they condone abortion.
Way to pigeonhole all atheists.

I condone abortion. I would condone the death penalty if there was any way to know we were applying it without error. As we clearly have and continue to occasionally execute innocent people, I have grave reservations about the death penalty.

Quite a few atheists here disagree with me, on both counts.
Quote:I believe that all life is sacred, so I condone both ideas as a type of murder.
If there's one thing that is absolutely clear, it's that life isn't sacred. It's cheap- everywhere but in my socioeconomic class in the Western world.

Is that sad? Yes. But these first-world issues you're quibbling over are pretty fucking pale in comparison to the misery, pain, and death that happen in the poverty-stricken, war-torn shitholes of the world. If you think all life is so sacred, I'm sure you're on top of that.

Hey, I know how it feels to be assumed, and I should've picked better language then the general. Apologies.

But, yeah, life is sacred, human life even more sacred, because we are products of the most miraculous naturally occurring process ever, life. So, life, even whilst a child in womb, is to be protected and not destroyed.
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#65
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Some things are illogical about atheists, though you missed every single one thing.

Atheists say that Death Penalty is murder, but they condone abortion.

Abrahamic Theists say that abortion is murder, but they condone the Death Penalty.

I believe that all life is sacred, so I condone both ideas as a type of murder.

I don't think the death penalty is murder and i'm an atheist. Quit generalising. Also, what do you mean by condone abortion?
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#66
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
I don't condone abortion. I am personally strongly against it (for religious reasons mostly), but still support a women's legal right to chose. Doesn't mean I agree with her choice, but I respect her right to make that choice.
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#67
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 6:58 pm)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Sleepy Wrote: One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything.

Some may believe killing is bad, others it's ok( evolutionary asserting your dominance)
Rape is bad, rape is ok( dominant mammal satisfying sexual desire)

In fact the latter of the two is most in line with atheists as they love to talk about evolutionary adaptations.

So why can't humans rape? Any atheists that condemn rape first of all are going against relativism and assuming there should absolutely be no rape. According to whom? According to whom should there be no rape?
The answer is clear, Allah prohibits rape. The penalty is death.

Atheists live in contradictions, relativity is the foundation of atheisms while many atheists are 'condemning' rape. Rape is jus another action relative to that individual. So it's illogical for atheists to condemn it.

Islam= Probibits rape
Atheists= rape is ok to some and bad to some

Atheist responses- it's bad. You can't force somebody.

Why not? Why is it 'bad'? What's wrong with a male spreading his genes through dominating a weaker individual. Survival of the fittest right? Why is it 'wrong'?

I'm agree about some parts , and not agree about other some parts .

So I believe the morality is innate and a human with an atheist belief doesnt mean that s/he is immoral. But atheist people is much more inclided for immoral behaviors . I've witnessed it in some atheist population density countries . You can roughly estimate about the behaviors of religious people , but you cant imagine about atheist people , anything can happen , there is no limit , this is much more dangerous .

Except you are dead wrong. Check crime statistics and prison statistics. Atheists are under-represented in prisons compared to the population.

Also read the previous post about rape statistics in Sweden: 77% of rapes are committed by Muslims.

You are delusional, young lady.
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#68
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 9:33 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Hey, I know how it feels to be assumed, and I should've picked better language then the general. Apologies.
Apology accepted. Try not to assume about a diverse group of people in the future.
Quote:But, yeah, life is sacred, human life even more sacred, because we are products of the most miraculous naturally occurring process ever, life. So, life, even whilst a child in womb, is to be protected and not destroyed.
So of course you are working like hell to stop the murder of all the innocent people in war-torn African countries, right? Because life is so precious to you?

Or are your efforts solely focused on American women who opt not to be reproductive slaves?
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#69
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 10:10 pm)Zazzy Wrote:
(December 7, 2013 at 9:33 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote: Hey, I know how it feels to be assumed, and I should've picked better language then the general. Apologies.
Apology accepted. Try not to assume about a diverse group of people in the future.
Quote:But, yeah, life is sacred, human life even more sacred, because we are products of the most miraculous naturally occurring process ever, life. So, life, even whilst a child in womb, is to be protected and not destroyed.
So of course you are working like hell to stop the murder of all the innocent people in war-torn African countries, right? Because life is so precious to you?

Or are your efforts solely focused on American women who opt not to be reproductive slaves?

The violence in Africa isn't as easy to solve as passing a law. This violence is. And, reproductive slaves? You know who has even less of a say than the poor, oppressed, women?

The unborn child.
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 11:04 pm)The_Thinking_Theist Wrote:



The violence in Africa isn't as easy to solve as passing a law. This violence is. And, reproductive slaves? You know who has even less of a say than the poor, oppressed, women?

The unborn child.

Yeah, because a fetus CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. It's a fucking fetus, for chrissakes.
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