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Is utopia impossible?
#11
RE: Is utopia impossible?
In my utopia their would be one world republic, with Zion as the capital. The economic system would be free-market communism & the political system would be democratic republicanism. Conformity would be abolished & individuality encouraged. I have no clue if that's achievable.
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#12
RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 3, 2014 at 12:18 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: In my utopia their would be one world republic, with Zion as the capital. The economic system would be free-market communism & the political system would be democratic republicanism. Conformity would be abolished & individuality encouraged. I have no clue if that's achievable.

Wut?
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#13
RE: Is utopia impossible?
Well, proposed utopias tend to draw in some assumptions about the concept of perfection, which I think - certainly in this case - is an incoherent concept.
"The reason things will never get better is because people keep electing these rich cocksuckers who don't give a shit about you."
-George Carlin
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#14
RE: Is utopia impossible?
Can someone please define utopia before they ask me if it is possible or not.
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#15
RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 4, 2014 at 12:13 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Can someone please define utopia before they ask me if it is possible or not.

That was my point with so many people having different ideas of what utopia is, is it even possible
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#16
RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 3, 2014 at 12:18 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: In my utopia their would be one world republic, with Zion as the capital. The economic system would be free-market communism & the political system would be democratic republicanism. Conformity would be abolished & individuality encouraged. I have no clue if that's achievable.
Free-market communism? Conformity would be abolished? How? By telling everyone "You have to be a special snowflake, like all the other special snowflakes, at penalty of law"?

lolwut?
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#17
RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 4, 2014 at 2:59 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(January 3, 2014 at 12:18 am)MarxRaptor Wrote: In my utopia their would be one world republic, with Zion as the capital. The economic system would be free-market communism & the political system would be democratic republicanism. Conformity would be abolished & individuality encouraged. I have no clue if that's achievable.
Free-market communism? Conformity would be abolished? How? By telling everyone "You have to be a special snowflake, like all the other special snowflakes, at penalty of law"?

lolwut?

Free Market Communism is better known as Mutualism, it was developed by Proudhon and essentially consists of workers cooperatives trading on a freee market witheach other
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#18
RE: Is utopia impossible?
I'm trying to figure out where you answered Benny's question, because you didn't...
"The reason things will never get better is because people keep electing these rich cocksuckers who don't give a shit about you."
-George Carlin
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#19
RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Hedonic treadmill. It's not human nature to be consistently happy. You can't have a utopia that most people will recognize as a utopia, because their level of dissatisfaction is a constant.

This. This times a million. I saw a Youtube vid that explained it fairly well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdyc7BpKic0

Our brains are incredibly maleable. They have this habit of finding new 'norms' that may be different from previous norms. This makes it possible to get used to situations you once found uncomfortable, but the other side of that is that when you start getting too used to something especially pleasurable, what used to give us pleasure will become 'the norm' (addictions are the simplest example of this). We even change neural pathways to adjust accept norms.
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#20
RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 4, 2014 at 6:47 am)là bạn điên Wrote:
(January 4, 2014 at 2:59 am)bennyboy Wrote: Free-market communism? Conformity would be abolished? How? By telling everyone "You have to be a special snowflake, like all the other special snowflakes, at penalty of law"?

lolwut?

Free Market Communism is better known as Mutualism, it was developed by Proudhon and essentially consists of workers cooperatives trading on a freee market witheach other
There is a difference between mutualism & free-market communism. Proudhon came to defend private property later in life, believing it should be redistributed among the workers rather than abolished. Free-market communism abolishes private property. Both are incredibly similar though.
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