BILL NYE VS KEN HAM: TONIGHT AT 7 PM

[Statler Waldorf]

Do you know what evolution is? I'm sure you do, changing over generations, the passing on of stronger traits isn't evolution?

Creationists believe that form of evolution happens. You’re equivocating on the term though because what you really mean is that all life descends from one single common ancestor. Creationists reject that.

So when I hear Creationists go on about 'kind' they are talking about genus, not species? They're never very specific.

Ham clearly stated in his presentation that I assume you also have been listening to that the biblical kind usually lines up with the taxonomic family classification.

He's an early earth creationist, right?

Indeed.

[JuliaL]

If you can walk a mile can you walk a billion miles?

Your distinction between a mile and a billion miles is based on an unstated but true limit that I won't live long enough to walk a billion miles.

If you wish to draw a line in the continuum of biological change beyond which further difference is impossible please state that line and why it exists... other than 'because I said so.'

[pineapplebunnybounce]

If you can walk a mile can you walk a billion miles?

Your distinction between a mile and a billion miles is based on an unstated but true limit that I won't live long enough to walk a billion miles.

If you wish to draw a line in the continuum of biological change beyond which further difference is impossible please state that line and why it exists... other than 'because I said so.'

"Because the bible says so."

[JuliaL]

"Because the bible says so."

And the bible reflects reality as we experience it because??????
or did I miss the [sarcasm] tag

[Statler Waldorf]

Yeah.

Let me guess, "Yahweh created the light en route to the earth to make it look like the universe is millions of years old at least."

No, not even close.

What's the barrier?

The empirical evidence supports this concept. There are genetic limitations to how far animal populations can change.

Yes, given enough time and resources.

Prove it. :p I can live for a year, can I therefore live for a million?

[Assimilate]

Do you know what evolution is? I'm sure you do, changing over generations, the passing on of stronger traits isn't evolution?

Creationists believe that form of evolution happens. You’re equivocating on the term though because what you really mean is that all life descends from one single common ancestor. Creationists reject that.

So refute a scientific theory with actual proof, and instead praise a book with no proof.

makes sense to me...

[DeistPaladin]

"Because the bible says so."

And the bible reflects reality as we experience it because??????
or did I miss the [sarcasm] tag

Yeah, but it's easy to do.
I call it "getting Poe-ned"

[JuliaL]

The empirical evidence supports this concept. There are genetic limitations to how far animal populations can change.

Please cite references to your 'empirical evidence.'
Or is this just another 'because I said so?'

[pineapplebunnybounce]

"Because the bible says so."

And the bible reflects reality as we experience it because??????
or did I miss the [sarcasm] tag

I saved you time. If I were a creationist you wouldn't get to that admission, not even after 100s of pages.

Which I see you're going to experience anyway, since you've engaged one, XD.

[DeistPaladin]

No, not even close.

Do tell, then.

The empirical evidence supports this concept. There are genetic limitations to how far animal populations can change.

And they are...? And the evidence for them is...?