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Kiev is a warzone now.
#31
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
(February 21, 2014 at 4:43 am)pocaracas Wrote: Those crazy french! Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFMbsw3v6U
Leave it to the ultranationalist FEMEN to back the eurofascists.

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This is the former logo of the Svoboda political party that is leading this demonstration. These are far-right protests. This highlights the hypocrisy of the European elite, who want to marginalize the far-right back home, but are perfectly happy to support neo-nazis when it comes to expanding their empire.
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#32
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
(February 20, 2014 at 7:32 pm)Cinjin Wrote:
(February 20, 2014 at 1:05 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: You are clearly a Eurofascist if you think these protestors are in the right.


Please explain why and how you came to this conclusion. This bold a statement deserves an explanation.

He won't answer that. He'd rather shriek Nazi! Nazi!

Very Tea Party-ish in the fascist accusations

Ironic how he defends Russia.
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#33
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/21/uk...lection-2/

Quote:Ukraine's embattled President Viktor Yanukovych said Friday he was calling an early presidential poll as the country inched towards resolving its bloodiest crisis since independence.

Well, what do you know? Someone is able to make progress without us dropping bombs on them.
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#34
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
When will the poll be? No earlier than September!
Go bureaucracy!
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#35
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
(February 21, 2014 at 2:23 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(February 21, 2014 at 1:08 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Fuck but you are one tedious cunt always bringing in your obsession with the Republican party into every discussion. This is about Ukraine not about the US.

Eat shit, moron. That senile old fuck... you know, the one the republicunts nominated for fucking president with that dumb cunt Palin no less as VP, has never seen an international dispute that he didn't want to see us stick our nose in.

It's because of fuckheads like him...and you, apparently, that we are as fucked up as we are.

Love to hear your theory as to how I am responsible.

(February 21, 2014 at 4:43 am)pocaracas Wrote: Those crazy french! Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFMbsw3v6U


I think you will find that they aren't French.
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#36
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
(February 19, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Yanukovich has so screwed the pooch I'm not even certain there's a pooch left.

Western Ukranians don't want increased Russian ties - and why should they?

The Russian economy is moribund, the wealth mostly in the hands of oligarchs and the culture increasingly repressive.

Between the choices of Europe and the one choice of Russia, Euromaidens have the right idea.

Kinda like here in the states.

The issue is a bit more complex that this. Yes the western part of Ukraine wants closer ties to the west. But the eastern, industrial portion of the country has closer ties to Moscow, and sees closer ties with the west as a threat. Though I don't agree with their paranoia, I can understand it.

(February 20, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: The government of Ukraine is lying; they claim that protesters are killing each other:

http://translate.google.com.ua/translate...7014692%2F

Evidence is against that claim; there are videos of police shooting to kill from a distance.

Police are using AKMSs and snipers.

http://www.radiosvoboda.org/media/video/25270710.html

They are shooting to kill protestors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxkDiAcSF8

They have been documented targeting Medics:

https://twitter.com/avramchuk_katya/stat...64/photo/1

She was shot in the neck.

This is not just a right wing protest. It encompasses both wings.

Police are not arresting people.

They are killing them.

As disturbing as that first video is, I can't tell who is killing who.

(February 20, 2014 at 11:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Whatever will Putin do?

Oh, and John McCain wants to bomb something.

It was clear when he attended a certain motorcycle rally in South Dakota that he wife was more likely to be elected Miss Buffalo Chips than he would to be elected president of the free world.



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#37
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
(February 21, 2014 at 1:44 pm)là bạn điên Wrote:
(February 21, 2014 at 4:43 am)pocaracas Wrote: Those crazy french! Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFMbsw3v6U


I think you will find that they aren't French.

Indeed.... ukranian...
Living in France.

Ah... google images on these people gives some nice sights... Tongue
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#38
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
eastern Ukraine ie Crimea is really part of Russia and has only been part of the Ukraine since Kruschev. Better if it were returned to Russia.
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#39
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
(February 21, 2014 at 2:49 pm)là bạn điên Wrote: eastern Ukraine ie Crimea is really part of Russia and has only been part of the Ukraine since Kruschev. Better if it were returned to Russia.

To which country do the people in Crimea want to belong?

What's so special about Crimea that Russia would be willing to wager civil war over it?
Is there oil around those parts?
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#40
RE: Kiev is a warzone now.
Crimea was flooded with ethnic Russians.

They speak Russian predominantly.

Western Ukraine speaks Ukrainian.
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